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Sammer

join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA

Consumers will never see USF money that goes to T or V

Any USF money that goes to AT&T or Verizon will go directly to shareholders, consumers will never see a dime!

sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
kudos:1

Dividends are a tiny % of their total profit. They just stockpile the money and buy out content companies with it.



fAcEtIOUs
Premium
join:2002-03-03
kudos:4

reply to Sammer

said by Sammer:

Any USF money that goes to AT&T or Verizon will go directly to shareholders, consumers will never see a dime!
No. It will most likely go to politically connected contractors who promise to install broadband upgrades; plan municipal broadband for local water & electric companies; PC wholesalers for school systems & local libraries, etc, etc. The key words being "POLITICALLY CONNECTED". The USF has always been used to reward the supporters of and contributors to politicians favored by those handing out the money(now Dems; before Repubs).

Sammer

join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA

Like I said consumers will never see a dime. Any national broadband plan based on cell phone companies expanding broadband is a failure to begin with. Except in third world countries fiber optics as deep as practical has to be the basis of such a plan and finding a way to reduce the cost of deploying fiber and encouraging competition is what will make it a success.


openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2

Ironically, the same wireless companies that you don't want receiving money to deploy Internet access are also responsible for a significant portion of the wireline infrastructure in this country. Wireless is significantly easier and less costly to fill access gaps with than wireline. Perhaps a good plan is to use wireless as a bridge and as wireline infrastructure is deployed.


hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

and VZ is selling off more and more of that wireline network.


Sammer

join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA

reply to openbox9

said by openbox9:

Wireless is significantly easier and less costly to fill access gaps with than wireline. Perhaps a good plan is to use wireless as a bridge and as wireline infrastructure is deployed.
While some much smaller companies may use wireless to fill in some of those gaps what makes you think that AT&T and Verizon will be any more interested in such less profitable areas than they are now?

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2

Have you missed the few articles here at DSLR over the last couple of weeks discussing VZ's shedding of expensive, regulated, low ROI wireline markets with the possibility of returning to those markets with relatively low cost wireless service? "Less profitable" areas are much easier to service with lower cost solutions.


openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2

reply to hottboiinnc
With the potential to return to those markets with wireless service. What's your point? VZ is leaning forward into the ongoing evolution of communications infrastructure.


act eth guy

join:2009-01-21
Downs, KS

reply to Sammer
So, they have been getting money and not spending it on Rural Customers. So lets give them more. What a joke. They should be forced to sell all exchanges under 100,000 subscribers to Independent, CO-OP or CLEC carriers that would actually put the money back into a rural infrastructure and the consumer.


act eth guy

join:2009-01-21
Downs, KS

reply to openbox9
Yes, if you are a money hungry giant and not concerned about establishing a local business with local people employed and with kickbacks to the local economy for supporting your low- rate of return projects.


openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2

Huh? I see many Verizon Wireless stores spread throughout both urban and rural areas...including areas not served by VZ's wireline service. What exactly do you think will change?


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