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Pv8man
join:2008-07-24
Hammond, IN | I guess a more important question is... Since they all know that it was obviously hashed out in secret behind closed doors...
The more important question would be who were the ones who voted in favor of it???
then you will know who's getting bribed. | | |
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 sitrix
join:2002-04-15
Tacoma, WA | Yup, mostly members of two parties (UKIP and Partij voor de Vrijheid) were voting in support of ACTA. Then Netherlands MEP's (Partij voor de Vrijheid) changed their votes against ACTA probably due to fear of being singled out. So final count of MEP's in support of ACTA was 10.
Here is the "shame" list:
Nigel Farage (United Kingdom, UKIP)
Marta Andreasen (United Kingdom, UKIP)
Stuart Agnew (United Kingdom, UKIP)
Gerard Batten (United Kingdom, UKIP)
John Bufton (United Kingdom, UKIP)
Trevor Colman (United Kingdom, UKIP)
The Earl of Dartmouth (United Kingdom, UKIP)
South West Region (United Kingdom, UKIP)
Mike Nattrass (United Kingdom, UKIP)
Paul Nuttall (United Kingdom, UKIP)
Nicole Sinclaire (United Kingdom, UKIP)
MEP's representing Netherlands who changed their vote:
Louis Bontes (Netherlands, Partij voor de Vrijheid)
Laurence J.A.J. Stassen (Netherlands, Partij voor de Vrijheid)
Daniel van der Stoep (Netherlands, Partij voor de Vrijheid) | |
| I don't know what the UKIP party stands for (other than what wikipedia says). The quote 'the development of the party into broadly standing for traditional conservative and libertarian values'. SUGGESTS it lines of better with the republicans and libertarians of the US. I don't put much weight into the suggestion as libertarians want a much smaller government and to stay out of the private sector, which I don't see being pro-ACTA one of their things. Similar for the republicans, but not as strong IMO.
I probably shouldn't try guessing anything from the UKIP on who whould support ACTA in the US. I just hope that: 1) ACTA dies and 2) the politicians work in the best interest of the general population and not a select portion of the population. | |
| said by cornelius785:I don't know what the UKIP party stands for (other than what wikipedia says). The quote 'the development of the party into broadly standing for traditional conservative and libertarian values'. SUGGESTS it lines of better with the republicans and libertarians of the US. I don't put much weight into the suggestion as libertarians want a much smaller government and to stay out of the private sector, which I don't see being pro-ACTA one of their things. Similar for the republicans, but not as strong IMO. UKIP stands for the "UK Independence Party" - basically they want the UK out of the European Union as they feel it is getting too powerful (I can sort of agree with that). I think they want us in the same position as Switzerland and Norway - working very closely with the EU, but not "in" it.
They disagree with the huge subsidies we give it, how it is slightly undemocratic (the latest Treaty, which expands the EU's powers, was only given a referendum in one country, because that country was forced to by its constitution), and the control that France and Germany hold over it.
As for the post you quoted, I am not sure why he listed "South West England" as a person. That is a constituency (mine, actually - I didn't vote UKIP though) that several people represent. It should also be said that MEPs (Member of the European Parliament) get paid very handsomely for their jobs. So these people who hate the EU, get a lot of money from it. Hmm.
I have to say I was considering voting UKIP as a viable fourth party, but if they support ACTA I don't think I will. | |
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