 | Alexandria should start talking about building their own fiber system, and then we'll see what Verizon will do next. |
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Must be wonderful having that power.. I can just imagine what would happen if someone wanted to deploy their own fiber to the area.. They'd lobby and sue to prevent it im sure.. |
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| reply to Bob61571 As soon as Philadelphia wanted to do that with a WiFi network, Verizon was kind enough to help push a state law that banned any city from creating their own communications services, requiring it be outsourced to the private sector.
The governor was proud to sign off on it. Or paid to sign it. Yeah probably the latter. -- »www.speedtest.net/result/598063272.png |
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 tubbynetreminds me of the danse russePremium,MVM join:2008-01-16 Chandler, AZ | reply to Karl Bode said by Karl Bode:Sue, lobby politicians to pass laws preventing it, then hire think tanks to argue that city-built fiber kills household pets. lot of puppy murder talk lately, karl. skeletons in the closet from your younger years, perhaps? 
q. -- "...if I in my north room dance naked, grotesquely before my mirror waving my shirt round my head and singing softly to myself..." |
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 axus join:2001-06-18 Washington, DC | reply to Bob61571 Verizon Shrugged, eh? |
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 JPLPremium join:2007-04-04 Downingtown, PA kudos:1 | reply to ssavoy said by ssavoy:As soon as Philadelphia wanted to do that with a WiFi network, Verizon was kind enough to help push a state law that banned any city from creating their own communications services, requiring it be outsourced to the private sector. The governor was proud to sign off on it. Or paid to sign it. Yeah probably the latter. First off, Verizon didn't scuttle the WiFi network in Philly... it was going to go through... until it collapsed on its own. It failed because it just wasn't workable. The requirements the city put on Earthlink, as well as the price for the job, made the whole thing unworkable. You make it sound like it was legislation that killed that project. It wasn't. And it was a testament to the fact that muni wi-fi generally doesn't work.
And if you really want to make the claim that the state is in the back pocket of Verizon, then please explain why the state still refuses to do a state-wide franchise agreement for Verizon? They won't. Nevermind the fact that Comcast was very successful at keeping Verizon outside of the Philly city limits for a very long time. |
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| reply to JPL First off, Verizon didn't scuttle the WiFi network in Philly... it was going to go through... until it collapsed on its own. Verizon certainly played a role. The right of refusal law they passed in that state was a joke. The crap business model didn't help that network of course, but to say Verizon didn't play a role is wrong.
I know it's trendy for carriers to fight tooth and nail against these projects using lawyers, think tanks, and lobbyists -- and then with a straight proclaim that ALL such projects will never work. But that doesn't make what they're saying true. |
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 JPLPremium join:2007-04-04 Downingtown, PA kudos:1 | said by Karl Bode:First off, Verizon didn't scuttle the WiFi network in Philly... it was going to go through... until it collapsed on its own. Verizon certainly played a role. The right of refusal law they passed in that state was a joke. The crap business model didn't help that network of course, but to say Verizon didn't play a role is wrong. I know it's trendy for carriers to fight tooth and nail against these projects using lawyers, think tanks, and lobbyists -- and then with a straight proclaim that ALL such projects will never work. But that doesn't make what they're saying true. How did they play a role? The project for Philly's wifi was already in motion. Even if Verizon was totally responsible for that bill, how did that prevent the competion of that network? You can make the case that the legislation would have stopped FUTURE such deployments, but how did that legislation kill the existing system? |
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