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vlad1000

join:2005-05-19
Brooklyn, NY

caps are for saps

you cap my bandwidth, i will go to clearwire! Can you hear me now, Verizon???

Big Dawg 23

join:2002-03-27
Northfield, MN

Enjoy Sprint. Verizon will not die because people don't take the data plan. I see them still offering Unlimited to Phones as they do now because of the limitation. Data cards are totally different.

According to my boss who is a Sprint customer, he has a unlimited data card now but if he upgrades it goes to a 5GB cap. At least that is what he was told.



Frank
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join:2000-11-03
somewhere

said by Big Dawg 23:

Enjoy Sprint. Verizon will not die because people don't take the data plan. I see them still offering Unlimited to Phones as they do now because of the limitation. Data cards are totally different.

According to my boss who is a Sprint customer, he has a unlimited data card now but if he upgrades it goes to a 5GB cap. At least that is what he was told.
sprint only caps their 3g network at 5GB,

sprint allows for unlimited bandwidth on their 4g (wimax) network.

what your boss has is an old legacy contract where he has unlimited usage on their 3g network.
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davoice

join:2000-08-12
Saxapahaw, NC
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Well... Clearwire/Clear/Sprint/Time Warner Mobile Broadband/et al DO have limits on the WiMax network.

Per Clear's own website:

Unlimited plans subject to certain limitations described in CLEAR’s Acceptable Use Policy. For details, go to www.clear.com/legal/aup.

}Davoice


xenophon

join:2007-09-17

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said by davoice:

Well... Clearwire/Clear/Sprint/Time Warner Mobile Broadband/et al DO have limits on the WiMax network.

Per Clear's own website:

Unlimited plans subject to certain limitations described in CLEAR’s Acceptable Use Policy. For details, go to www.clear.com/legal/aup.

}Davoice
That's no different than cable operators. They state they have a right to alter service if you are impacting network congestion, but it doesn't have a broadly specific defined cap. All ISPs have similar conditions.

I think the differences between Verizon/ATT and Sprint 4G will be that Sprint will eventually structure limits inline with cable operators since they don't have a landline broadband network direct to homes. VZW/ATT will structure 4G limits similar to 3G because they do have landland broadband networks. So Sprint be forced to have less limits than VZW/ATT - good for the consumer.

Verizon can go ahead and do per use charges/caps if they want, but someone will be out there who does not.

This seems to validate WiMAX's claims that it costs less to rollout than LTE. Verizon is essentially agreeing to it.

Crookshanks

join:2008-02-04
Endicott, NY
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reply to vlad1000
I hate to defend this practice but isn't wireless a slightly different animal than wired connections? My understanding is that spectrum limitations come into play in much the same manner as a cable company with an overloaded node -- except that it isn't as easy to buy more spectrum as it is to split an overloaded coax node.

Now that doesn't mean that 5GB is a fair or justifiable cap or that the amounts they are charging for overages are anything but a ripoff. But is it actually feasible to offer truly limitless connections on a wireless service and still guarantee a reasonable level of service to your customers?


patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1

said by Crookshanks:

I hate to defend this practice but isn't wireless a slightly different animal than wired connections? My understanding is that spectrum limitations come into play in much the same manner as a cable company with an overloaded node -- except that it isn't as easy to buy more spectrum as it is to split an overloaded coax node.
Instead of buying spectrum the answer is to split the cell.


C0deZer0
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join:2001-10-03
Davenport, FL

reply to Big Dawg 23

said by Big Dawg 23:

Enjoy Sprint. Verizon will not die because people don't take the data plan. I see them still offering Unlimited to Phones as they do now because of the limitation. Data cards are totally different.

According to my boss who is a Sprint customer, he has a unlimited data card now but if he upgrades it goes to a 5GB cap. At least that is what he was told.
Well, since VZW and AT&T are basically making it mandatory to take a data plan with just about any phone worth using, you'd be blind to think it won't affect subscriber-ship to their services.
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Crookshanks

join:2008-02-04
Endicott, NY
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reply to patcat88
I'm not an RF engineer but isn't there a limit to how many times they can do that before the neighboring cells and phones start to interfere with each other? I know with CDMA that transmissions not intended for you show up as background noise. Reach a certain threshold and the S/N ratio will be too low for your phone/data card to work properly.

I'd imagine there's also a cost issue to that, particularly in rural areas where they don't have the luxury of slapping cell sites on existing structures and need to build or lease towers.



PapaMidnight

join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD

reply to davoice

said by davoice:

Well... Clearwire/Clear/Sprint/Time Warner Mobile Broadband/et al DO have limits on the WiMax network.

Per Clear's own website:

Unlimited plans subject to certain limitations described in CLEAR’s Acceptable Use Policy. For details, go to www.clear.com/legal/aup.

}Davoice
Their own AUP states a soft 5GB cap.


davoice

join:2000-08-12
Saxapahaw, NC

And their virtual operators (Ala RoadRunner Mobile) also sell a 2GB product w/ a specific 2GB cap.

} Davoice


xenophon

join:2007-09-17

reply to patcat88
ATT/VZW only have about 25Mhz spectrum in the 700mhz band. Sprint has about 100Mhz spectrum for WiMAX per market.



dMarks
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join:2007-02-09
Jackson, MI
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reply to Big Dawg 23

said by Big Dawg 23:

According to my boss who is a Sprint customer, he has a unlimited data card now but if he upgrades it goes to a 5GB cap. At least that is what he was told.
If your boss switches from Sprint to Millenicom he can upgrade to a newer device and still keep unlimited data. Might come at a price increase (Millenicom unlimited sprint is $69.99).

So, don't believe everything you're told. Sprint has made deals that keep people on the unlimited service.
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patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1

reply to Crookshanks
CDMA controls handset's transmit power in a real time loop, the mathematics requires to know the signal loss from the handset to the base station to figure out what the original signal coming out of the handset was. From what I just googled about GSM, it has power control, but only 8 levels, .8 watts is the lowest, then 2 watts. 99% of GSM handsets have a max transmit power of 2 watts anyways.



warchyld

@spcsdns.net

reply to Big Dawg 23
He is misinformed i have one as well the unlimited ppl stay that way he has to ask to be grandfathered in thats all it goes to 62.50 instead of 59.99



warchyld

@spcsdns.net

reply to davoice
Not sure what he is talking about i have sprint 3g and its unlimited i used 25G last month and clear which is owned by sprint offers 2 devices on 4G 50$ for life of course there clauses like p2p no isps like that thats why they say that


hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

reply to dMarks
Sprint does NOT enforce their caps. That's the thing. They may claim there is a Cap there isn't one.

People on here all the time say they use well more than the 5gigs per month on the EVDO cards and still have the service.


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