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sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
kudos:1

reply to fiberguy

Re: I have a feeling...

said by fiberguy:

So wait... HIS model is where everyone is going to flock?? .. to an ISP that not only charges for the download, but also the upload?? AND has a cap??

I will give him ONE thing... I like the idea of being able to pick both download AND upload speeds separately... that's kind of a nice concept... but, based on what you just said, he's no better than what he's complaining about as well.. says one thing and does another.

niiiiiiiice....

By the way, I LOVE his tag line on his profile.. "Everybody Lies"...
I'm seriously starting to wonder if you and openbox are the same person with 2 different ID tags. You two always reply in unison. It's kind of pathetic.

As for his post, he wasn't "complaining". He mentioned his customers complaining about the paltry 5 GB caps their former ISPs enforced. Your quip about his customers using up everything is asinine, because he's obviously STILL in business.

The fact that he offers such incredibly low-cost tiers ($10/month?) which caps that are far, far bigger than Comcast's, without having the massive size and economy of scale as the incumbent ISPs (as well as their own self-built middle mile backhaul), speaks to how much the incumbents price-gouge.

Your defense of your corporate overlords at the expense of the smaller competitors is repugnant and disgusting. I hope you look at yourself in the mirror one day and realize your flaws.

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2

said by sonicmerlin:

I'm seriously starting to wonder if you and openbox are the same person with 2 different ID tags. You two always reply in unison.
I seldom reply to fiberguy See Profile. If anything you should accuse fAcEtIOUs See Profile and me of being the same person since we appear to have a lot of similar business beliefs
said by sonicmerlin:

The fact that he offers such incredibly low-cost tiers ($10/month?) which caps that are far, far bigger than Comcast's, without having the massive size and economy of scale as the incumbent ISPs (as well as their own self-built middle mile backhaul), speaks to how much the incumbents price-gouge.
You do realize that his "caps" are because he most likely throttles his download tiers at approximately 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 Mbps and his upload tiers at 45, 90, 135, 180, 225, 270, 315, 360, and 405 Kbps. So, for about $30, I get roughly a 6/512 DSL connection that I could pay AT&T ~$34/mth for over two years. Not too awfully inspiring...especially since I won't have access to WiFi with AT&T on the go.

Where's that truth in advertising and everyone around here seems to crave? How can knightmb See Profile possibly have a 100 exabyte cap, when his maximum tier appears to top out at 2,031 GB/mth? I want to download my 100 exabytes for $30/mth.

fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
kudos:3

sonicmerlin is paranoid... MAR_03_2002 and I are not the same person. But, he can believe what ever he wants at night to make himself sleep better.. his choice.

Even as you say about the "caps"... which he clearly has some.. I'd think that many users here would be, as usual, upset that someone is saying that have an "all you can eat" service when clearly he doesn't... Yet, sonicmerlin follows up with low-cost tier pricing as his rebuttal as well as "price gouging"... As capitalism states, you price your product at what the market can handle..

I am also one that agrees that different services can offer different advantages.. but again, as you point out, DSL is comparable to the WISP here.

And I will throw something in as well... if the internet costs about $10 or so per month per subscriber, I don't necessarily believe that it needs to be priced as a certain percentage above the actual cost.. I find an INCREDIBLE value at $42 a month for my 16/2 internet service considering the fact that just 10 years ago, it was about $50 a month for dial up and extra phone line (much of what went to taxes and fees) and was good for just one computer.. with today's broadband, I have about 20 devices hooked up to my one connection, have a gazillion times more bandwidth than dialup, and I pay far less than what I used to. So for me, this works.


openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2

Agreed. In 1994, I paid ~$29/mth for a dial-up connection theoretically capable of 28.8 kbps. Today I pay $38.99/mth for a 12/2 Mbps connection, that consistently clocks in at 13/3 Mbps with PowerBoost and a sub 35 ms latency. I'll take that increase in value any day of the week. Similar to you, I currently have 14 IP devices on my network with no bandwidth constraints.


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