 Logan 5Enjoying the CataclysmPremium,MVM
join:2001-05-25
Austin, TX
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1 edit | Can someone explain why they cant make smaller cabinets? Seems like they could if they really wanted to with the current technology to miniaturize.
It would be a no brainer to get people to adopt their technology on their property easier if the box was semi-buried or the size of a microwave not an upright fridge....... |
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| Its not the city or municpality taking the 1500 if its going on private property. If they were to try and put one in YOUR yard, they would pay YOU whatever option you picked. I would take one in my yard if i got paid 1500 for it. That is 3 months worth of the mortgage payments. |
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Bill_F
join:2010-02-09
Huntsville, AL | reply to Logan 5
»www.adtran.com/web/page/portal/A···roup/330
You need something like that every few thousand feet/couple of blocks probably with a fiber WAN connection.
These Adtran Cabinets aren't that big though. The big cabinet in the picture is only about 2 feet wide and maybe 1.5 feet tall.
Something that size can serve many VDSL customers. (~300 or so with enough VDSL cards possibly, each VDSL/POTs card combination can run 32 lines I believe, times 9 or 10 maybe)
A lot of the size must be do to the way the carriers hook the phone lines into the boxes (using breakout cables on a rack) or battery backup.
They also have smaller pole mounted alternatives that serve less customers though.
So really no reason to have super giant tall boxes.
It must be the carriers being too cheap to buy smaller equipment, or running too many wires through the box. |
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said by Logan 5:Seems like they could if they really wanted to with the current technology to miniaturize. It would be a no brainer to get people to adopt their technology on their property easier if the box was semi-buried or the size of a microwave not an upright fridge....... I'd suspect heat and power concerns. We don't know what the power requirement is nor how much room is required for all the gear. Tighter you make the confines the less margin for error. Also as equipment changes its a heck of a lot easier to add things if an enclosure is half full versus trying to get something the size of a fridge down to a microwave oven size. |
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 r81984Fair and BalancedPremium
join:2001-11-14
Katy, TX | reply to Logan 5
It is also a no brainer to put the boxes in peoples back yards.
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I really don't see the size of the cabinets getting much smaller. Sure, you can go with a smaller shelf, but who would want to only serve a few homes and have 3 cabinets per mile. When you can install the current size cabinets and serve customers for a mile in 4 directions. There is a lot of fixed costs that enter into each and every cabinet placed. The providers have to keep the number of cabinets to a minimum and the serving area to a maximum. |
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NormanSPremium,MVM
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San Jose, CA
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said by Logan 5:It would be a no brainer to get people to adopt their technology on their property easier if the box was semi-buried or the size of a microwave not an upright fridge....... I have yet to see a VRAD on private property in the City of San José (California); nor even a box which isn't very near an older, uglier "B-Box".
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VRAD & B-Box.
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VRAD & B-Box.
Neither is on private property. Neither is on a front lawn. If you'd like to see more examples, there are probably at least a dozen within a two mile radius of my premises. All just like these; not on front lawns.
Probably depends upon how the community allowed for the placement of the "B-Boxes" in the first place.
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| I think the issue has more to do with newer suburban environments where there is almost no such thing as public land, and likely a different setup for the "B-Boxes". You go to some brand new neighborhoods around here and you never see a "B-Box" at all... I don't know where they put them. They're just invisible, or something. Apparently that doesn't work for these new VRADs?
Honestly, to me it's their fault for wanting to live in a suburb instead of in the city. You gotta have stuff like this somewhere.
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said by r81984:It is also a no brainer to put the boxes in peoples back yards. Why? So that the utility has to ask you permission every time they need to maintain their equipment?
I'd rather have one by the street rather than in my back yard to be honest. |
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NormanSPremium,MVM
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San Jose, CA
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| said by fifty nine:Why? So that the utility has to ask you permission every time they need to maintain their equipment? They don't need to ask permission to access equipment in a utility easement. The utilities here have been known to ask if we have a dog, but not if we mind that they access the pole.
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r81984Fair and BalancedPremium
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Katy, TX Reviews:
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said by fifty nine:said by r81984:It is also a no brainer to put the boxes in peoples back yards. Why? So that the utility has to ask you permission every time they need to maintain their equipment? I'd rather have one by the street rather than in my back yard to be honest. It will not be put on your property. It is put on the easement in your backyard.
In new subdivisions I have seen everything (power company boxes, cable company boxes, etc) is either in the backyards or along the road to enter the subdivision where there are no houses. Even in my old house which that neighborhood was built in the 70s it is above ground wiring along everyones backyards. Nothing is in the front of any house.
I can't understand why in some neighborhoods they would be lazy and put these in peoples front yards.
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NormanSPremium,MVM
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| said by r81984:I can't understand why in some neighborhoods they would be lazy and put these in peoples front yards. I doubt it is laziness. The VRAD needs to be as close to the copper distribution cabinet (SAI, "cross-connect", "B-Box"; whatever you wish to call it) as possible. The VRAD is the neighborhood terminus of the fiber; it has to convert to copper somewhere, for the "Last Mile" distribution. I suspect a lot of it has to do with communities which allowed the SAIs to be placed in locations which the neighbors currently find offensive.
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