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JDmailNY

join:2007-12-02
Pearl River, NY

[CCNA] Undertanding Next hop routing answer

I simply can understand how these
people are getting this answer ??? Can someone please help

Routing has been configured on the router
with the following commands.

Router1(config)#ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1
Router1(config)#ip route 10.1.0.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.2.2
Router1(config)#ip route 10.1.0.0 255.255.0.0 192.168.3.3

Match the correct relationship between each destination IP address
and next hop address.

1.10.1.1.10, 2.10.1.0.14, 3.10.2.1.3, 4.10.1.4.6
5.10.1.0.123 6.10.6.8.4

I.Next hop 192.168.1.1,II-Next hop 192.168.2.2,III-Next hop 192.168.3.3

How are they getting the answer ????
I-3,6
II-2,5
III-1,4


jester121
Premium
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
Reviews:
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It's actually a subnetting question.

1. 10.1.1.10 has to fall into the 255.255.0.0 mask so it goes to 3.3

2. 10.1.0.14 falls into the 255.255.255.0 mask so it goes to 2.2

3. doesn't fall into the explicit so it uses the default route 1.1

and so on from there.


aryoba
Premium,MVM
join:2002-08-22
kudos:1

reply to JDmailNY
Assuming the router is configured to support IP classless and those routes are active in routing table, then jester121 See Profile is correct.


JDmailNY

join:2007-12-02
Pearl River, NY

reply to jester121
I hope I'm not asking too much, but can you tell me how you calculated that these ip's feel at these masked and goes to another ip.'
Thanks



jester121
Premium
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
Reviews:
·voip.ms

Sure. The route statements (starting at the bottom and working up) are for particular subnets. The third one says

"For the network 10.1.0.0/16 (which is a subnet mask of 255.255.0.0) route everything to 192.168.3.3"

The network in question goes from 10.1.0.1 to 10.1.255.254, not counting the first and last IP address.

The second route statement pertains only to the network 10.1.0.0/24 (which is a subnet mask fo 255.255.255.0) and covers the range of 10.1.0.1 to 10.1.0.254.

The route statements are like a plumbing system with different sized pipes, in that routing goes from most specific to least specific. Since 10.1.0.x is explicitly told to route to 192.168.2.2, that's where it goes. All the other 10.1.x.x addresses go to 192.168.3.3. Stuff that is outside that range, like 10.6.8.4 in option #6, use the default route:

ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1

If you're not real strong on subnetting, it's really important to learn that. It's a challenging concept but once you learn it it's hammered home and you can figure out a LOT of problems, and also do some neat networking stuff.

I learned from this website, »www.learntosubnet.com/ There are probably some flasher ones out there but this one was explained in a way that worked with my brain patterns.


JDmailNY

join:2007-12-02
Pearl River, NY

As always, thanks so much, I need all the help I can get, One more exam and I'm a CCNA. Thanks to people like you.



mikeyb4760
Premium
join:2004-09-25
El Cajon, CA

One more exam, and your'e a ccna? The question you were asking is at the basic level..How's your knowledge of acl's and
maybe encrypting routing protocol updates?



NetAdmin1
CCNA

join:2008-05-22

reply to JDmailNY

said by JDmailNY:

One more exam and I'm a CCNA.
Not trying to be disrespectful, but if you are having trouble with this concept and can't do longest prefix match problems in your sleep, you shouldn't be CCNA certified. You should be so comfortable with the material that you are able to answer the question in your original post for all the prefixes in under one minute. My advice is to spend a couple more months getting ready for the exam and learning the material.
--
Kilroy was here

DocLarge
Premium
join:2004-09-08
kudos:1

1 edit

reply to JDmailNY
JDmailNY,

don't get too caught up with the last two comments. Generally, you'll get that from the folks who work in the switching/routing arena "daily" and forget some folks are trying to get there, hence asking the appropriate questions.

I got my CCNA almost 3yrs ago, but have been stuck managing a Windows SharePoint shop, therefore alot of my routing knowledge has "fallen off the table" yet I still managed to pass my BCMSN (Switching) for my CCNP (BSCI, ISCW and ONT left). It's great that the video boot camp I'm following (TrainSignal CCNP BSCI video boot camp) goes back over basic routing.

I've also visited a few CCNP classes that teach the CCNP and teach "the same stuff" the CCNA taught; the difference is now you don't have to switch between routing "and" switching concepts. Depending upon the CCNP class you take, you'll specialize/learn "specifically" that particuar track.

Don't sweat it if you stumble here or there; nobody knows it all, but it's good to have a CISCO reference guide in the area should you have questions. If you do your CCNP, "everything" you learned in CCNA will be "re-hashed" but more "in-depth" (I promise). Think of CCNA as your undergrad (bachelor's), CCNP as your graduate (master's), and the CCIE as your doctorate (Phd).

Jay


nosx

join:2004-12-27
00000
kudos:5

>DocLarge
Dont be rediculous, tomkb knows it all ;-P


DocLarge
Premium
join:2004-09-08
kudos:1

*heh*



TomS_
Git-r-done
Premium,MVM
join:2002-07-19
Ireland
kudos:1

reply to jester121

said by jester121:

"For the network 10.1.0.0/16 (which is a subnet mask of 255.255.0.0) route everything to 192.168.3.3"

The network in question goes from 10.1.0.1 to 10.1.255.254, not counting the first and last IP address.

The second route statement pertains only to the network 10.1.0.0/24 (which is a subnet mask fo 255.255.255.0) and covers the range of 10.1.0.1 to 10.1.0.254.
Actually, when you are talking about routing, 10.1.0.0/16 covers 10.1.0.0 through 10.1.255.255 inclusive, and 10.1.0.0/24 covers 10.1.0.0 through 10.1.0.255 inclusive.

If what you said were true, 10.1.0.0 and 10.1.255.255 would be routed via 192.168.1.1, and this is not correct.

Routing considers the entire subnet. Only when you start looking at the access side of a subnet to network addresses and broadcast addresses come into play.


TomS_
Git-r-done
Premium,MVM
join:2002-07-19
Ireland
kudos:1

reply to mikeyb4760

said by mikeyb4760:

encrypting routing protocol updates?
What on earth does that have to do with CCNA?

ACLs yes, they are very fundamental, but "encrypting routing protocol updates"? Get real...


mikeyb4760
Premium
join:2004-09-25
El Cajon, CA

reply to JDmailNY
I left out "updates' when talking about routing protocols



NetAdmin1
CCNA

join:2008-05-22

said by mikeyb4760:

I left out "updates' when talking about routing protocols
The ICND2 only covers MD5 hash authentication. That doesn't encrypt the update, it only adds a hash to prevent someone from spoofing an update to a neighbor.
--
Kilroy was here


mIke again

@aol.com

semantics.. I suppose, but it's the same as service password-encryption which is type 7 hashing, but it is described as encryption.. Your're right, I,m wrong good enough?



anon2436136

@comcast.net

reply to JDmailNY
I don't know.. I'd have to agree with the people saying you shouldn't be a CCNA if you don't know this..

I just finished the first course in the Cisco Net Acad last semester, and currently working on Routing Protocols.. I'm not even a CCNA and I knew the answer.. lol.


JDmailNY

join:2007-12-02
Pearl River, NY

reply to DocLarge
Doc what your saying is so true and very helpful.


chuleta

join:2003-06-11
notusa

reply to JDmailNY
Well,

Router1(config)#ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1
Router1(config)#ip route 10.1.0.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.2.2
Router1(config)#ip route 10.1.0.0 255.255.0.0 192.168.3.3

that just doesn't work.

The last 2 routes will never be installed in the routing table, because the default you entered points to a host and not an interface.

Because the last 2 routes, your destination and your next hop are resolved via the default(doesn't have to be necessarily the default, it could be any other route) the router wont install them in the routing table. The only way for that to happen is if the default points to an interface, and even tho they will still be both resolved by the default, it will do so because that way it will reduce ARP requests.

otherwise those answers are tricky.


aryoba
Premium,MVM
join:2002-08-22
kudos:1

said by chuleta:

Well,

Router1(config)#ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1
Router1(config)#ip route 10.1.0.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.2.2
Router1(config)#ip route 10.1.0.0 255.255.0.0 192.168.3.3

that just doesn't work.

The last 2 routes will never be installed in the routing table, because the default you entered points to a host and not an interface.
Just because the two routes point to a host does not necessarily mean the routes will never be in routing table. Never say never

If the either 10.1.0.0/24 or 10.1.0.0/16 have administrative distance of 0 (which is less than 1) from Router1 perspective, then yes the last two routes will be inactive until the routes with administrative distance of 0 becomes unavailable.

said by chuleta:

Because the last 2 routes, your destination and your next hop are resolved via the default(doesn't have to be necessarily the default, it could be any other route) the router wont install them in the routing table. The only way for that to happen is if the default points to an interface, and even tho they will still be both resolved by the default, it will do so because that way it will reduce ARP requests.

otherwise those answers are tricky.
There are a lot of networks with routes pointing to hosts instead of interface and those routes exist in routing table. If any doubts, try to configure the routes on actual router and see how the routers behave.

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