| reply to BiggA
Re: Laws of Physics said by BiggA:Satellite is going up against the laws of physics. At the speed of light, it will take 250ms for the signal to go from dish to satellite to dish. It will never work. Aircraft at 100,000 feet might do the trick that are solar powered and maintain their own position... There's no way to possibly (at this present level of technology) keep Aircraft in geosynchronous flight over the globe. To keep it at a practical speed would essentially cause a stall and the plane would drop like a brick.
I also am not sure as to the practicality in terms of cost with regards to Solar Powering them. Solar Panels are expensive. Storing the power is even more expensive, plus you have to account for between 8-12 hours of no sun.
That's just in typical areas. We haven't even counted in areas such as Alaska which is potentially prone to a solid month or longer of darkness (and likewise of light during the summer).
It's complicated, to say the very least. Makes BoPL sound oh so much better if it had actually gone somewhere. |
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| Execs of Wildblue and Hughes KNOW how bad their service sucks. they dont need people in forums telling them that.
I am sure they read 1,000's of complaints each day.
i've talked personally to the CEO of Wildblue about how bad his service was. He claimed he could do nothing to help my ailing speeds and terrible service. To avoid dealing with me, they cancelled my contract and didn't charge me anything (interestingly enough, they keep billing me for the equipment I sent back to them). Bill on . . .
i've talked to Execs at Hughesnet. their only response is always "We do not guarantee speeds". Upon install, speeds are great. Even into the 30th day. After day 30, you're in a contract, and they can screw you however they please.
the NOC is at complete control of every system connected to their network. Corporate office EXECS act like they dont know what the word "throttling" means.
Satellite is an absolute LAST means for anyone that can't get dsl or mobile broadband.
Latency will never improve due to the simple physics involved.
Wildblue and Hughes continue to be driven towards profit, and care little about consumer issues once they are in a contract!!! (my dealings with them prove it).
I just happened to get lucky and find mobile broadband worked flawlessly in my area. I wish I had discovered it first!
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There have been small plane proposals, and they have a way to make them work, but probably not a business model. If the antennas have a 2.9 beam width, and the planes are 20 miles up, the planes could fly around in a mile figure 8 and still keep in contact. Of course these would only cover maybe a 50-100 mile circle at best, and you'd be pushing it for LOS beyond a 50 miles circle, as that's roughly equivalent to the look angles for satellite.
The ground-sat-ground latency is 239ms, but yes, if you wait for a reply from the server, then its 478ms, not counting network delays, plus the fact that the traffic is often offloaded hundreds or thousands of miles from where you are, so web content from your area will be that much slower, while stuff from CDNs would feed from the node nearest the satellite offload point, not near your actual location.
The issue is latency, not bandwidth. Wildblue has 1.5mbps with 22GB/mo. Granted, that's nothing compared to my school connection at 50mbps and 16GB/week or my home connection at 12mbps and 250GB/mo, but still, it's not horrible. The latency IS horrible. Even the latency on AT&T's EDGE makes me a little nuts, and that's ~900ms, compared to my usual 22ms connection.
Verizon could largely solve the problem single-handedly with a $50/mo 100GB/mo plan without overage charges that would be permanently mated to the five towers closes to the service address. The vast majority of these locations can get EVDO service, and in areas where its present but too weak, a masted repeater could get EVDO up to the mbit mark. Of course you could just do add-a-line, and get a tetherable phone and effectively get unlimited internet for $40/mo- on par with the cable and DSL companies...
EVDO is about 160ms ping, but that's mostly because once it gets to the tower, the data gets bounced all over Verizon's network before it hits the public internet. With some additional software to route fixed point traffic directly to the internet at the tower base, Verizon could become a really big player in the rural broadband market with their existing EVDO investment... |
