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mrexcelion

join:2008-08-06

reply to kn2011

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

@KN: I originally qualified for ATT Traditional DSL 6mb when I signed up for it a year ago. Now that they've transitioned over, I too only see 3mb. I assumed it was because they saw that my attenuation is usually around 48 and SNRs were around 6-9, which is borderline for the 6mb plan, and the service did lose sync in the evenings because of that, so I assume they changed it in their system only offer me 3 now. Could be an automatic thing the system does based on line stats, or maybe they got a tad bit more stringent with requirements for IP-DSLAM.

StLCardsFan

join:2011-06-06
Lafayette, LA
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reply to kn2011

said by kn2011 :

I current have traditional DSL with 6Mb/768K plan with DSLExtreme. If I move to AT&T, I can only qualify for IP-DSLAM PRO 3.0Mb. Why is this ?

who knows man. Att has very bizarre business models. Personally ..i wouldn't change then.


kn2011

@dslextreme.com

reply to Ukiah Jim
I current have traditional DSL with 6Mb/768K plan with DSLExtreme. If I move to AT&T, I can only qualify for IP-DSLAM PRO 3.0Mb. Why is this ?


Ukiah Jim

join:2011-04-21
Ukiah, CA

reply to ILpt4U

said by ILpt4U:

said by Ukiah Jim:

I've heard from several techs that the 2Wire is a superior piece of equipment too, FWIW.

An example: To qualify for the Max 12 or Max 18 speeds on IPDSLAM, you HAVE to have the Moto 2210. The 2Wire 2701 is not compatible with the faster speeds. Superiority? I'll let each decide on his/her own

Yeah, they did say it's only good up to 6mbps, but much more reliable. Just what I heard.


ILpt4U
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join:2006-11-12
Lisle, IL
kudos:4
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reply to Ukiah Jim

said by Ukiah Jim:

I've heard from several techs that the 2Wire is a superior piece of equipment too, FWIW.

It is more familiar, as the other U-Verse modems are 2Wires. Just because something is different does not make it inferior, but many techs would feel that way

An example: To qualify for the Max 12 or Max 18 speeds on IPDSLAM, you HAVE to have the Moto 2210. The 2Wire 2701 is not compatible with the faster speeds. Superiority? I'll let each decide on his/her own

Ukiah Jim

join:2011-04-21
Ukiah, CA

reply to gdm
I've heard from several techs that the 2Wire is a superior piece of equipment too, FWIW.



ILpt4U
Premium
join:2006-11-12
Lisle, IL
kudos:4

reply to EastSide
Read the first page of this FAQ

But in short, U-Verse internet has no PPPoE


EastSide

join:2001-07-06
Elgin, IL

reply to ILpt4U
Can't I put the modem in bridge mode and use the PPPoE in the router?



ILpt4U
Premium
join:2006-11-12
Lisle, IL
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reply to EastSide
For Static IPs on IPDSLAM, only the 2Wire 2701 is allowed. The Moto 2210 has no way to assign out/deal with the Static IPs


EastSide

join:2001-07-06
Elgin, IL

reply to gdm
I have a question about equipment. I am in the process of getting IP-DSLAM HSI installed (there is a problem I am told near the central office and they couldn't finish it today. The tech left the 2Wire gateway, but in the past I have used a modem with my own router (currently a Sonicwall). I have the static package ordered. Can I use the Motorola 2210-02-1ATT with my Sonicwall they way I have previously with ADSL or will their be problems?



ILpt4U
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join:2006-11-12
Lisle, IL
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reply to mrexcelion

said by mrexcelion:

Does it require an active home phone service like traditional DSL?

U-Verse IPDSLAM does not require POTS/Active Phone Service

Then again, neither does traditional ADSL service. I had Dry Loop "normal" ADSL for a couple years before getting U-Verse ADSL2+ IPDSLAM Dry Loop

Paralel

join:2011-03-24
kudos:2

reply to mrexcelion
No active phone line required.


mrexcelion

join:2008-08-06

1 edit

reply to mrexcelion
Hi, I had one other question regarding this service:

Does it require an active home phone service like traditional DSL?

Edit: Well, I see you're calling yours Dry Loop, which would mean it wouldn't need an active phone service. The one that says available for me is:

"AT&T U-verse Internet Pro - D 3.0"

Is that the Dry Loop service? If all versions of this IP-DSLAM don't require an active phone line, this might be a good question to add to the FAQ for people.


mrexcelion

join:2008-08-06

reply to ILpt4U
Thank you. While I would have expected closer to the advertised rate, that's still a sizable increase



ILpt4U
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join:2006-11-12
Lisle, IL
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reply to mrexcelion
When I had "normal" Dry Loop ADSL Elite, I consistently got about 5.1/5.2 Mbps down. With Dry Loop U-Verse ADSL2+ IPDSLAM Elite, I get a pretty consistent 5.5-5.6 Mbps down.

So there is still some overhead, but it is not as much as the ATM/PPPoE traditional ADSL product

I don't quite understand why users aren't "Over Provisioned" to account for Overhead -- instead of provisioning Elite service right at 6 Mbps -- provision it @ 6.5 Mbps, to allow for the Overhead loss, so the user experience ends up much closer to the consistent advertised speed. Oh well.


mrexcelion

join:2008-08-06

reply to ILpt4U
Hi DSLR, I had a question about IP-DSLAM:

Speed tests - I'm looking to get more out of my slow DSL line, and wanted to see some real speed tests from those with 3mb or 6mb DSL IP-DSLAM. I see that there's no ATM overhead so that must help some. Not sure if there's no PPPOE overhead too. With the 6mb connection, I normally would get around 5.12-5.20, and with 3mb I'd get around 2.58-2.60. Trying to justify the switchover if I could see how much of a speed increase people are getting in the real world.

Thanks a bunch!



ILpt4U
Premium
join:2006-11-12
Lisle, IL
kudos:4

reply to MrHappy316
If you can get IPDSLAM ADSL2+ U-Verse, you will keep Fast Path.

If you end up getting FTTN VDSL2 U-Verse, you will lose the Fast Path and be switched to Interleave


MrHappy316
Wish I had my tank
Premium
join:2003-01-02
Monterey, CA

reply to gdm
I currently have Regular DSL with the following stats off my modem:

Downstream Path / Upstream Path
DSL Sync Rate (Kbits/Sec) 8128 / 512
SN Margin (dB) 12.50 / 12.00
Line Attenuation (dB) 20.50 / 13.00
CRC Errors 495 / 2

I am eligible to get i believe the 12 or 18 DSL package that are now available in my area as U-verse has been turned on in my area. I game alot and have great latency right now being on a fast profile. If I upgrade to one of the U-Verse package can I remain on a fast profile or will I be regulated to a interleaved profile. Right now everything works fine and as they say if it isn't broke do not fix it.



StLCardsFan

@sbcglobal.net

reply to ILpt4U
well ... i cant think of the provider ATM ..but they are based in in the burbs there ... interlync i think is the name...they are offering 24mbit adsl via ATT in beta market ..so it is available there in chicagoland... i dunno what the up speeds aer.

18mbit is not gonna get it done ... nor is 1mbit... hell i had 1mbit up in 97.

I suggest to people they start pounding their city councils to build municipal fiber networks and throw att out to the waste side.

Lastly.. yeah i have no idea why any pitcher would pitch to King Albert in extra innings...Cubs are great at making bad decisions though.



ILpt4U
Premium
join:2006-11-12
Lisle, IL
kudos:4
Reviews:
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reply to StLCardsFan
The 24 Mbps Internet is only available via VDSL2 FTTN U-Verse service, for those that live close enough to the VRAD to qualify.

The 18 Mbps Internet is the fastest AT&T is selling via ADSL2+ IPDSLAM U-Verse, for those that live close enough to the CO

I don't understand why, as a visiting team, you would EVER pitch to Albert Pujols in Extra Innings, TWO DAYS IN A ROW?!?!?

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