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mrexcelion

join:2008-08-06

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reply to mrexcelion

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Hi, I had one other question regarding this service:

Does it require an active home phone service like traditional DSL?

Edit: Well, I see you're calling yours Dry Loop, which would mean it wouldn't need an active phone service. The one that says available for me is:

"AT&T U-verse Internet Pro - D 3.0"

Is that the Dry Loop service? If all versions of this IP-DSLAM don't require an active phone line, this might be a good question to add to the FAQ for people.

Paralel

join:2011-03-24
Michigan, US
kudos:4
No active phone line required.


ILpt4U
Premium
join:2006-11-12
Lisle, IL
kudos:10
Reviews:
·AT&T U-Verse
reply to mrexcelion
said by mrexcelion:

Does it require an active home phone service like traditional DSL?

U-Verse IPDSLAM does not require POTS/Active Phone Service

Then again, neither does traditional ADSL service. I had Dry Loop "normal" ADSL for a couple years before getting U-Verse ADSL2+ IPDSLAM Dry Loop

EastSide

join:2001-07-06
Elgin, IL
reply to gdm
I have a question about equipment. I am in the process of getting IP-DSLAM HSI installed (there is a problem I am told near the central office and they couldn't finish it today. The tech left the 2Wire gateway, but in the past I have used a modem with my own router (currently a Sonicwall). I have the static package ordered. Can I use the Motorola 2210-02-1ATT with my Sonicwall they way I have previously with ADSL or will their be problems?


ILpt4U
Premium
join:2006-11-12
Lisle, IL
kudos:10
For Static IPs on IPDSLAM, only the 2Wire 2701 is allowed. The Moto 2210 has no way to assign out/deal with the Static IPs

EastSide

join:2001-07-06
Elgin, IL
Can't I put the modem in bridge mode and use the PPPoE in the router?


ILpt4U
Premium
join:2006-11-12
Lisle, IL
kudos:10
Read the first page of this FAQ

But in short, U-Verse internet has no PPPoE

Ukiah Jim

join:2011-04-21
Ukiah, CA
reply to gdm
I've heard from several techs that the 2Wire is a superior piece of equipment too, FWIW.


ILpt4U
Premium
join:2006-11-12
Lisle, IL
kudos:10
Reviews:
·AT&T U-Verse
said by Ukiah Jim:

I've heard from several techs that the 2Wire is a superior piece of equipment too, FWIW.

It is more familiar, as the other U-Verse modems are 2Wires. Just because something is different does not make it inferior, but many techs would feel that way

An example: To qualify for the Max 12 or Max 18 speeds on IPDSLAM, you HAVE to have the Moto 2210. The 2Wire 2701 is not compatible with the faster speeds. Superiority? I'll let each decide on his/her own

Ukiah Jim

join:2011-04-21
Ukiah, CA
said by ILpt4U:

said by Ukiah Jim:

I've heard from several techs that the 2Wire is a superior piece of equipment too, FWIW.

An example: To qualify for the Max 12 or Max 18 speeds on IPDSLAM, you HAVE to have the Moto 2210. The 2Wire 2701 is not compatible with the faster speeds. Superiority? I'll let each decide on his/her own

Yeah, they did say it's only good up to 6mbps, but much more reliable. Just what I heard.


kn2011

@dslextreme.com
I current have traditional DSL with 6Mb/768K plan with DSLExtreme. If I move to AT&T, I can only qualify for IP-DSLAM PRO 3.0Mb. Why is this ?

StLCardsFan

join:2011-06-06
Lafayette, LA
Reviews:
·LUS Fiber
said by kn2011 :

I current have traditional DSL with 6Mb/768K plan with DSLExtreme. If I move to AT&T, I can only qualify for IP-DSLAM PRO 3.0Mb. Why is this ?

who knows man. Att has very bizarre business models. Personally ..i wouldn't change then.

mrexcelion

join:2008-08-06
reply to kn2011
@KN: I originally qualified for ATT Traditional DSL 6mb when I signed up for it a year ago. Now that they've transitioned over, I too only see 3mb. I assumed it was because they saw that my attenuation is usually around 48 and SNRs were around 6-9, which is borderline for the 6mb plan, and the service did lose sync in the evenings because of that, so I assume they changed it in their system only offer me 3 now. Could be an automatic thing the system does based on line stats, or maybe they got a tad bit more stringent with requirements for IP-DSLAM.

StLCardsFan

join:2011-06-06
Lafayette, LA
reply to gdm
why doesnt att offer pair bonding for adsl2?

StLCardsFan

join:2011-06-06
Lafayette, LA
ill ask again ..why doesnt att do pair bonding on adsl2? Their competitors are doing it on their networks ... and then their other telco competitors are doing it too..

so why would they not do it?


MrAnderson3

join:2011-05-18
Richardson, TX
kudos:9
reply to gdm
im sorry i am just coming back form being off for a few days. Right now pair bonding is only available for certain areas for fiber to the node. other than that i cannot say why it is not.
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Andy - U-Verse Social Media Support Team T2 uversecare@att.com

privdog

join:2011-09-21
Corpus Christi, TX
reply to gdm
This seems like a good thread to ask my question in. So here it goes, any input would be greatly appreciated.
Okay, I have a field office in the middle of Texas, originally we got regular 'ol DSL. AT&T screwed up and had us on a higher tier than our distance would allow. Over 6k feet, @ 6 down and .5 up I think. They tell me my choices are to down grade, or I could try an IP DLSAM(uverse) connection. Well naturally my connection was already slow and I could really used the extra .5(really .3) upstream increase I decided to try the IP DSLAM. Motorola modem only. My connection seems to much improved over the previous DSL connection. The one major problem I'm having is I can't connect to my network drives on my server in Oklahoma. With the old DSL when it was up and didn't error out too much I could at least connect to my drives briefly. I have them mapped by IP Address, and had put my file server in the DMZ and created a rule to allow all file sharing no matter the credentials with no luck. This is all while being connected directly to the modem, no router involved on one end. Full access to the one on the other though. Any other internet connection i connect to(there are two open wifi connections in the area) I have full access to all my network drives and have no problem authenticating on the domain. My IP of the server i'm connecting to is 192.168.0.2, the Motorola has a factory(seemingly permanent) IP of 192.168.7.254. Which I thought the 7 to be a little strange(non standard) but didn't think would matter. Any thoughts at all? AT&T 360 Business support was absolutely no help.

sparrowhawk

join:2006-06-23
Los Angeles, CA
reply to gdm
It seems like this is the modem being sold for IP-DSLAM now. Anybody have experience with this equipment?

ig51x Internet Gateway

The AT&T U-verse Internet gateway is a single, intelligent device that brings together both your U-verse High Speed Internet and U-verse Voice to distribute them throughout your home.
Internet gateway - front

Get connected

The Internet gateway enables wireless networking capabilities throughout your home. It's powerful enough to help eliminate wireless dead spots and, with encryption security, safeguard against outside access of your Internet connection. In addition, four Ethernet ports for wired LAN connections are included along with connections for phones to your U-verse Voice service.

Your gateway will connect to:

Your personal computers via WiFi and Ethernet so you can use AT&T U-verse High Speed Internet service.
Your personal devices such as WiFi cameras, network printers, mass storage devices, and more...
Your phones, faxes for U-verse Voice service

Features:

Router Functionality
Wi-Fi (wireless Internet)
4 Ethernet ports
Analog Telephone Adapter (for U-verse Voice)
Firewall/security
Easy to install and use

Professional Grade Firewall

Defends your home network against common Internet threats such as Distributed Denial of Service attacks. As well, Internet gateway software updates are made automatically.
Internet gateway - rear
U-verse Internet Gateway connections

Phone Line - Supports 2 Voice lines with single port
Wi-Fi
RJ-11 for DSL service

Local Ethernet - RJ-45 for 4 Ethernet ports
Hi Power 802.11g wireless connection;
no external antenna

Installation

The U-verse Internet gateway is designed for self-install of Internet services. With the Internet self install, you save money by completing the simple install yourself.

For a fee, a highly trained AT&T professional will install your Internet gateway and make all the necessary Internet connections. U-verse Voice service requires a technician to install.

mrexcelion

join:2008-08-06
I'm guessing this is why ATT is now charging $100 to buy the IP-DSLAM modem on their website instead of $75 a few months ago.

StLCardsFan

join:2011-06-06
Lafayette, LA
Reviews:
·LUS Fiber
I just finished speaking with an att uverse tech/installer working in the building next to mine...

I asked him about the new hgv510 and he said it seems to sync slower than the 2210-2 ... and he couldn't figure out why... saying it was only 800-900kb slower generally ...it was definitely slower syncing.

Also says he received a document or literature on upcoming bonding for adsl2 and will be rolled out beginning at the end of this year ..and that its sole purpose is to extend the lengths at which they can offer to customers ...not to increase speed for existing customers.

GoldenRemote

join:2008-02-13
Lisle/IL
reply to gdm
Nvg510's are the new modem they have now old 2701's 2210's won't even sync up anymore. At least in most locations. As far as pair bonding for for adsl-2 Mr. Anderson is right it is only available where there is FTTN in place already 1 because distance is still an issue with about 5000' +- a couple hundred' and most areas where there is predominantly ipdslam were never "conditioned" for uverse so not only are there limited good pairs to use for service but there are also just limited pairs period in the area with most being used by POTS/DSL customers


ILpt4U
Premium
join:2006-11-12
Lisle, IL
kudos:10
2210s sync up fine, and 2701s sync up fine if they are upgraded to the 6 series firmware


MyTechLife
Tech Guru

join:2001-01-17
Reno, NV
Reviews:
·Callcentric
reply to gdm
Please update the FAQ. It seems lots has changed in 18 months.

I am trying to order internet from »www.att.com/shop/internet/index. ··· ndex.jsp It shows the new Motorola NVG510 modem in the promotional information. When I continue to order, I am shown that there will be a $149 professional installation fee for even the lowest speed tier. Why? I've read that 12Mbps or less can be a self-install.

Here's a bit about my neighborhood:

I first got DSL about 10 years ago from the CO - about 16,000' away.

A few years later I switched to a RT about 7600' away and was able to get up to 3Mbps.

A few years ago a VRAD was installed about 4100' away. Though I wasn't able to get U-verse services, I now qualified for the 6Mbps DSL service from the RT - I assume due to line conditioning in my area that they did along with the U-verse roll-out.

This year pair bonding in my neighborhood allowed me to get U-verse service - I qualify for up to 18Mbps internet speed (24Mbps is not available).

I'm not interested in U-verse TV nor phone, just internet. So when I try to order internet, am I really just getting internet only from the VRAD - thus requiring professional installation since they probably need to re-wire me to the VRAD?

What are the distance requirements from the RT/IP-DSLAM to be able to get the 12Mbps or 18Mbps speeds?

Would I get the NVG510 modem if I was connected to the RT, the VRAD or either? I hate the 2Wire RG, and can't believe it's still only Wireless G.
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Follow me on Twitter: @MyTechLife2

tbns

join:2011-12-27

1 edit
reply to gdm
Delete.

tesh82

join:2009-12-25
Palmdale, CA

1 edit
reply to gdm
Edit: Moved this to a new topic.

IP Commander

join:2012-02-25
Oakland, CA
reply to gdm
So IPDSLAM is NOT the same as Uverse right?
Because I can't profile above 3m on my "Uverse" which is really IPDSLAM.
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MY IP Address IPCONFIG Commands

Madtown
Premium
join:2008-04-26
Madera, CA
Reviews:
·Comcast
reply to gdm
I only qualify for Express on U-verse internet, which is strange as I have Pro for ADSL, (I think the slots are full and that is why) and there is a VRAD connected to the cross box that serves me DSL, but it's not turn on yet. Is it possible that they're not going to turn on the VRAD even after spending money putting it in?

wcryan

join:2012-03-25
Escondido, CA
reply to gdm
So they put a Vrad about 1.1 miles down the street from me (which they said is fully functional and on). I had them come out and they were about to put a new drop line into my house, but then they got smart and tested the line before and found out I am too far to get Uverse.

The tech and the line guy said "good thing we checked first, it's time to go to plan B"

They said I would be able to get IP DSLAM which they said goes from the regular telephone box(which is next to the Vrad), through the Vrad, then to my house.

My question is. Being a little over a mile, which seems to be shorter than most people that get IP DSLAM from the reviews I have read; will my speeds still be pretty fast? The tech told me that he's seen people get 12MB at my distance. Is he correct? or is he just sugarcoating it?;

wcryan

join:2012-03-25
Escondido, CA
We'll now........ all in all they say I am too far away for anything. I know I am too far away for Uverse; but doesnt 5700FT sound suitable for IP DSLAM? I dont get it


n1cotine

@fastservers.net
reply to gdm
Does anyone know if they've changed the policy about supported modems/CPEs? I've been using a Cisco 877 for my old ADSL service, and just ordered the IP-DSLAM product. My router supports ADSL2, so I'd like to utilize it if possible.