Topic 'IP-DSLAM FAQ' in forum 'AT&T U-verse' - dslreports.com

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Sat, 09 Feb 2013 12:44:57 EDT

StillLearn posted : I was not allowed to reply to ILpt4U, since his post was over 90 days old, but I worked around it. His post was useful for me to know that I don't have IP-DSLAM service. I had read through a lot of info on this sticky thread before I was sure that this did not apply to me. Since his modem list was relatively fresh, I knew that neither the 3800 or 3801 was on the list, I was able to figure out that I had VRAD DSL service.

Maybe an edit to the first post on the thread could add a preamble to let people know how to figure out if IP-DSLAM applied to them

said by ILpt4U:

The only 3 modems that work with IPDSLAM ADSL2+ are:
2Wire/Pace 2701 hgv-b (supports speeds up to 6 mbps elite plan; supports static & dynamic IP; black & gray in color)
Motorola 2210 (supports all speed plans; only supports dynamic IP; black in color)
Motorola NVG510 (supports all spped plans; supports static & dynamic IP; black in color)

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Fri, 22 Jun 2012 22:04:44 EDT

r81984 posted : Do not buy the NVG510 from ATT for $100 if you want to use your own router, return if they send it to you and get your money back.
Buy a 2210-02-1 used on ebay for around $25 with shipping or less.
See - »SemiFIXED - NVG510 - Doesn't Work Anymore - Fix or Replace?
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Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:48:17 EDT

ILpt4U posted : The only 3 modems that work with IPDSLAM ADSL2+ are:
2Wire/Pace 2701 hgv-b (supports speeds up to 6 mbps elite plan; supports static & dynamic IP; black & gray in color)
Motorola 2210 (supports all speed plans; only supports dynamic IP; black in color)
Motorola NVG510 (supports all spped plans; supports static & dynamic IP; black in color)

So long story short, no your Cisco 877 will not work with AT&T IPDSLAM U-Verse Internet

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:36:30 EDT

anon posted : Does anyone know if they've changed the policy about supported modems/CPEs? I've been using a Cisco 877 for my old ADSL service, and just ordered the IP-DSLAM product. My router supports ADSL2, so I'd like to utilize it if possible.

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Sun, 08 Apr 2012 13:11:00 EDT

wcryan posted : We'll now........ all in all they say I am too far away for anything. I know I am too far away for Uverse; but doesnt 5700FT sound suitable for IP DSLAM? I dont get it

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Sun, 25 Mar 2012 13:01:31 EDT

wcryan posted : So they put a Vrad about 1.1 miles down the street from me (which they said is fully functional and on). I had them come out and they were about to put a new drop line into my house, but then they got smart and tested the line before and found out I am too far to get Uverse.

The tech and the line guy said "good thing we checked first, it's time to go to plan B"

They said I would be able to get IP DSLAM which they said goes from the regular telephone box(which is next to the Vrad), through the Vrad, then to my house.

My question is. Being a little over a mile, which seems to be shorter than most people that get IP DSLAM from the reviews I have read; will my speeds still be pretty fast? The tech told me that he's seen people get 12MB at my distance. Is he correct? or is he just sugarcoating it?;

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:45:12 EDT

Madtown posted : I only qualify for Express on U-verse internet, which is strange as I have Pro for ADSL, (I think the slots are full and that is why) and there is a VRAD connected to the cross box that serves me DSL, but it's not turn on yet. Is it possible that they're not going to turn on the VRAD even after spending money putting it in?

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 07:44:01 EDT

IP Commander posted : So IPDSLAM is NOT the same as Uverse right?
Because I can't profile above 3m on my "Uverse" which is really IPDSLAM.
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Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:52:52 EDT

tesh82 posted : Edit: Moved this to a new topic.

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Tue, 27 Dec 2011 11:01:15 EDT

tbns posted : Delete.

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:28:48 EDT

MyTechLife posted : Please update the FAQ. It seems lots has changed in 18 months.

I am trying to order internet from »www.att.com/shop/internet/index.jsp It shows the new Motorola NVG510 modem in the promotional information. When I continue to order, I am shown that there will be a $149 professional installation fee for even the lowest speed tier. Why? I've read that 12Mbps or less can be a self-install.

Here's a bit about my neighborhood:

I first got DSL about 10 years ago from the CO - about 16,000' away.

A few years later I switched to a RT about 7600' away and was able to get up to 3Mbps.

A few years ago a VRAD was installed about 4100' away. Though I wasn't able to get U-verse services, I now qualified for the 6Mbps DSL service from the RT - I assume due to line conditioning in my area that they did along with the U-verse roll-out.

This year pair bonding in my neighborhood allowed me to get U-verse service - I qualify for up to 18Mbps internet speed (24Mbps is not available).

I'm not interested in U-verse TV nor phone, just internet. So when I try to order internet, am I really just getting internet only from the VRAD - thus requiring professional installation since they probably need to re-wire me to the VRAD?

What are the distance requirements from the RT/IP-DSLAM to be able to get the 12Mbps or 18Mbps speeds?

Would I get the NVG510 modem if I was connected to the RT, the VRAD or either? I hate the 2Wire RG, and can't believe it's still only Wireless G.
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Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:41:48 EDT

ILpt4U posted : 2210s sync up fine, and 2701s sync up fine if they are upgraded to the 6 series firmware

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:44:09 EDT

GoldenRemote posted : Nvg510's are the new modem they have now old 2701's 2210's won't even sync up anymore. At least in most locations. As far as pair bonding for for adsl-2 Mr. Anderson is right it is only available where there is FTTN in place already 1 because distance is still an issue with about 5000' +- a couple hundred' and most areas where there is predominantly ipdslam were never "conditioned" for uverse so not only are there limited good pairs to use for service but there are also just limited pairs period in the area with most being used by POTS/DSL customers

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Sat, 08 Oct 2011 12:04:34 EDT

StLCardsFan posted : I just finished speaking with an att uverse tech/installer working in the building next to mine...

I asked him about the new hgv510 and he said it seems to sync slower than the 2210-2 ... and he couldn't figure out why... saying it was only 800-900kb slower generally ...it was definitely slower syncing.

Also says he received a document or literature on upcoming bonding for adsl2 and will be rolled out beginning at the end of this year ..and that its sole purpose is to extend the lengths at which they can offer to customers ...not to increase speed for existing customers.

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Fri, 07 Oct 2011 18:21:23 EDT

mrexcelion posted : I'm guessing this is why ATT is now charging $100 to buy the IP-DSLAM modem on their website instead of $75 a few months ago.

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Tue, 04 Oct 2011 05:47:10 EDT

sparrowhawk posted : It seems like this is the modem being sold for IP-DSLAM now. Anybody have experience with this equipment?

ig51x Internet Gateway

The AT&T U-verse Internet gateway is a single, intelligent device that brings together both your U-verse High Speed Internet and U-verse Voice to distribute them throughout your home.
Internet gateway - front

Get connected

The Internet gateway enables wireless networking capabilities throughout your home. It's powerful enough to help eliminate wireless dead spots and, with encryption security, safeguard against outside access of your Internet connection. In addition, four Ethernet ports for wired LAN connections are included along with connections for phones to your U-verse Voice service.

Your gateway will connect to:

Your personal computers via WiFi and Ethernet so you can use AT&T U-verse High Speed Internet service.
Your personal devices such as WiFi cameras, network printers, mass storage devices, and more...
Your phones, faxes for U-verse Voice service

Features:

Router Functionality
Wi-Fi (wireless Internet)
4 Ethernet ports
Analog Telephone Adapter (for U-verse Voice)
Firewall/security
Easy to install and use

Professional Grade Firewall

Defends your home network against common Internet threats such as Distributed Denial of Service attacks. As well, Internet gateway software updates are made automatically.
Internet gateway - rear
U-verse Internet Gateway connections

Phone Line - Supports 2 Voice lines with single port
Wi-Fi
RJ-11 for DSL service

Local Ethernet - RJ-45 for 4 Ethernet ports
Hi Power 802.11g wireless connection;
no external antenna

Installation

The U-verse Internet gateway is designed for self-install of Internet services. With the Internet self install, you save money by completing the simple install yourself.

For a fee, a highly trained AT&T professional will install your Internet gateway and make all the necessary Internet connections. U-verse Voice service requires a technician to install.

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:14:29 EDT

privdog posted : This seems like a good thread to ask my question in. So here it goes, any input would be greatly appreciated.
Okay, I have a field office in the middle of Texas, originally we got regular 'ol DSL. AT&T screwed up and had us on a higher tier than our distance would allow. Over 6k feet, @ 6 down and .5 up I think. They tell me my choices are to down grade, or I could try an IP DLSAM(uverse) connection. Well naturally my connection was already slow and I could really used the extra .5(really .3) upstream increase I decided to try the IP DSLAM. Motorola modem only. My connection seems to much improved over the previous DSL connection. The one major problem I'm having is I can't connect to my network drives on my server in Oklahoma. With the old DSL when it was up and didn't error out too much I could at least connect to my drives briefly. I have them mapped by IP Address, and had put my file server in the DMZ and created a rule to allow all file sharing no matter the credentials with no luck. This is all while being connected directly to the modem, no router involved on one end. Full access to the one on the other though. Any other internet connection i connect to(there are two open wifi connections in the area) I have full access to all my network drives and have no problem authenticating on the domain. My IP of the server i'm connecting to is 192.168.0.2, the Motorola has a factory(seemingly permanent) IP of 192.168.7.254. Which I thought the 7 to be a little strange(non standard) but didn't think would matter. Any thoughts at all? AT&T 360 Business support was absolutely no help.

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:09:38 EDT

MrAnderson posted : im sorry i am just coming back form being off for a few days. Right now pair bonding is only available for certain areas for fiber to the node. other than that i cannot say why it is not.
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Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Sat, 17 Sep 2011 02:58:48 EDT

StLCardsFan posted : ill ask again ..why doesnt att do pair bonding on adsl2? Their competitors are doing it on their networks ... and then their other telco competitors are doing it too..

so why would they not do it?

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Tue, 26 Jul 2011 17:30:29 EDT

StLCardsFan posted : why doesnt att offer pair bonding for adsl2?

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Sat, 16 Jul 2011 04:53:01 EDT

mrexcelion posted : @KN: I originally qualified for ATT Traditional DSL 6mb when I signed up for it a year ago. Now that they've transitioned over, I too only see 3mb. I assumed it was because they saw that my attenuation is usually around 48 and SNRs were around 6-9, which is borderline for the 6mb plan, and the service did lose sync in the evenings because of that, so I assume they changed it in their system only offer me 3 now. Could be an automatic thing the system does based on line stats, or maybe they got a tad bit more stringent with requirements for IP-DSLAM.

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:23:34 EDT

StLCardsFan posted :

said by kn2011 :

I current have traditional DSL with 6Mb/768K plan with DSLExtreme. If I move to AT&T, I can only qualify for IP-DSLAM PRO 3.0Mb. Why is this ?

who knows man. Att has very bizarre business models. Personally ..i wouldn't change then.

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 14:42:16 EDT

anon posted : I current have traditional DSL with 6Mb/768K plan with DSLExtreme. If I move to AT&T, I can only qualify for IP-DSLAM PRO 3.0Mb. Why is this ?

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Fri, 01 Jul 2011 18:31:19 EDT

Ukiah Jim posted :

said by ILpt4U:

said by Ukiah Jim:

I've heard from several techs that the 2Wire is a superior piece of equipment too, FWIW.

An example: To qualify for the Max 12 or Max 18 speeds on IPDSLAM, you HAVE to have the Moto 2210. The 2Wire 2701 is not compatible with the faster speeds. Superiority? I'll let each decide on his/her own

Yeah, they did say it's only good up to 6mbps, but much more reliable. Just what I heard.

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Fri, 01 Jul 2011 18:13:07 EDT

ILpt4U posted :

said by Ukiah Jim:

I've heard from several techs that the 2Wire is a superior piece of equipment too, FWIW.

It is more familiar, as the other U-Verse modems are 2Wires. Just because something is different does not make it inferior, but many techs would feel that way

An example: To qualify for the Max 12 or Max 18 speeds on IPDSLAM, you HAVE to have the Moto 2210. The 2Wire 2701 is not compatible with the faster speeds. Superiority? I'll let each decide on his/her own

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Fri, 01 Jul 2011 17:44:38 EDT

Ukiah Jim posted : I've heard from several techs that the 2Wire is a superior piece of equipment too, FWIW.

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Fri, 01 Jul 2011 11:12:58 EDT

ILpt4U posted : Read the first page of this FAQ

But in short, U-Verse internet has no PPPoE

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Fri, 01 Jul 2011 09:25:18 EDT

EastSide posted : Can't I put the modem in bridge mode and use the PPPoE in the router?

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Fri, 01 Jul 2011 07:55:18 EDT

ILpt4U posted : For Static IPs on IPDSLAM, only the 2Wire 2701 is allowed. The Moto 2210 has no way to assign out/deal with the Static IPs

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Thu, 30 Jun 2011 23:56:45 EDT

EastSide posted : I have a question about equipment. I am in the process of getting IP-DSLAM HSI installed (there is a problem I am told near the central office and they couldn't finish it today. The tech left the 2Wire gateway, but in the past I have used a modem with my own router (currently a Sonicwall). I have the static package ordered. Can I use the Motorola 2210-02-1ATT with my Sonicwall they way I have previously with ADSL or will their be problems?

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Fri, 24 Jun 2011 20:17:30 EDT

ILpt4U posted :

said by mrexcelion:

Does it require an active home phone service like traditional DSL?

U-Verse IPDSLAM does not require POTS/Active Phone Service

Then again, neither does traditional ADSL service. I had Dry Loop "normal" ADSL for a couple years before getting U-Verse ADSL2+ IPDSLAM Dry Loop

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Fri, 24 Jun 2011 09:28:33 EDT

Paralel posted : No active phone line required.

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Thu, 23 Jun 2011 17:58:30 EDT

mrexcelion posted : Hi, I had one other question regarding this service:

Does it require an active home phone service like traditional DSL?

Edit: Well, I see you're calling yours Dry Loop, which would mean it wouldn't need an active phone service. The one that says available for me is:

"AT&T U-verse Internet Pro - D 3.0"

Is that the Dry Loop service? If all versions of this IP-DSLAM don't require an active phone line, this might be a good question to add to the FAQ for people.

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:08:59 EDT

mrexcelion posted : Thank you. While I would have expected closer to the advertised rate, that's still a sizable increase

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:46:01 EDT

ILpt4U posted : When I had "normal" Dry Loop ADSL Elite, I consistently got about 5.1/5.2 Mbps down. With Dry Loop U-Verse ADSL2+ IPDSLAM Elite, I get a pretty consistent 5.5-5.6 Mbps down.

So there is still some overhead, but it is not as much as the ATM/PPPoE traditional ADSL product

I don't quite understand why users aren't "Over Provisioned" to account for Overhead -- instead of provisioning Elite service right at 6 Mbps -- provision it @ 6.5 Mbps, to allow for the Overhead loss, so the user experience ends up much closer to the consistent advertised speed. Oh well.

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:40:53 EDT

mrexcelion posted : Hi DSLR, I had a question about IP-DSLAM:

Speed tests - I'm looking to get more out of my slow DSL line, and wanted to see some real speed tests from those with 3mb or 6mb DSL IP-DSLAM. I see that there's no ATM overhead so that must help some. Not sure if there's no PPPOE overhead too. With the 6mb connection, I normally would get around 5.12-5.20, and with 3mb I'd get around 2.58-2.60. Trying to justify the switchover if I could see how much of a speed increase people are getting in the real world.

Thanks a bunch!

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:59:57 EDT

ILpt4U posted : If you can get IPDSLAM ADSL2+ U-Verse, you will keep Fast Path.

If you end up getting FTTN VDSL2 U-Verse, you will lose the Fast Path and be switched to Interleave

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:19:41 EDT

MrHappy316 posted : I currently have Regular DSL with the following stats off my modem:

Downstream Path / Upstream Path
DSL Sync Rate (Kbits/Sec) 8128 / 512
SN Margin (dB) 12.50 / 12.00
Line Attenuation (dB) 20.50 / 13.00
CRC Errors 495 / 2

I am eligible to get i believe the 12 or 18 DSL package that are now available in my area as U-verse has been turned on in my area. I game alot and have great latency right now being on a fast profile. If I upgrade to one of the U-Verse package can I remain on a fast profile or will I be regulated to a interleaved profile. Right now everything works fine and as they say if it isn't broke do not fix it.

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Mon, 06 Jun 2011 01:11:04 EDT

anon posted : well ... i cant think of the provider ATM ..but they are based in in the burbs there ... interlync i think is the name...they are offering 24mbit adsl via ATT in beta market ..so it is available there in chicagoland... i dunno what the up speeds aer.

18mbit is not gonna get it done ... nor is 1mbit... hell i had 1mbit up in 97.

I suggest to people they start pounding their city councils to build municipal fiber networks and throw att out to the waste side.

Lastly.. yeah i have no idea why any pitcher would pitch to King Albert in extra innings...Cubs are great at making bad decisions though.

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Mon, 06 Jun 2011 00:01:31 EDT

ILpt4U posted : The 24 Mbps Internet is only available via VDSL2 FTTN U-Verse service, for those that live close enough to the VRAD to qualify.

The 18 Mbps Internet is the fastest AT&T is selling via ADSL2+ IPDSLAM U-Verse, for those that live close enough to the CO

I don't understand why, as a visiting team, you would EVER pitch to Albert Pujols in Extra Innings, TWO DAYS IN A ROW?!?!?

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Sun, 05 Jun 2011 19:40:39 EDT

anon posted : ooop ..gotta get the broooom haha. poor cubs

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Sun, 05 Jun 2011 18:06:54 EDT

anon posted : I have the black 2210-2-att1 modem and live in a highrise about 2 blocks from the arch, 2 blocks from Busch Stadium, and 2 blocks from the ATT tower (btw cubs lost 2 in a row here haha).

sync rate is 17,500kbs / 1024kbs. Thats generally ballpark of what it says and the tech guys say im about 3900 feet from the co.

St. louis waived most of the right-of-way issues ATT had and was promised fiber to each building (i guess uverse vdsl) and is kinda pissed and researching municipal fiber because of it.

I also know ATT is using 24mbit on the adsl in some markets...just why would they limit it to 1mbit up is beyond me really.

Charter has 60 and 100mbit down and 5-10mbit up in some neighborhoods.

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Sun, 05 Jun 2011 12:32:27 EDT

ILpt4U posted :

said by StLCardsFan :

I have 18/1 ipdslam uverse ... and can basically hit the ATT corporate tower here with a rock.

1mbit is shit upload lol. what is the fastest speed on this adsl 2+ or whatever its called? can they provision the 32/5 or whatever to this?

IP-DSLAM U-Verse is ADSL2+ U-Verse; they are the same thing

Which modem do you have?

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Sun, 05 Jun 2011 11:26:18 EDT

dustman81 posted :

said by StLCardsFan :

1Mb is the fastest upload available to ADSL2+. The 1.5 Mb upload is only available to VDSL customers.

No Uverse customer can get 32/5 for internet. 32/5 is the total bandwidth for internet, TV and phone.

You're on the fastest package available for ADSL2+. VDSL customers can get up 24/3.

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Sun, 05 Jun 2011 05:35:45 EDT

anon posted : I have 18/1 ipdslam uverse ... and can basically hit the ATT corporate tower here with a rock.

1mbit is shit upload lol. what is the fastest speed on this adsl 2+ or whatever its called? can they provision the 32/5 or whatever to this?

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Fri, 27 May 2011 11:04:41 EDT

ILpt4U posted :

said by MrAnderson:

Only reason i ask is typically 2210 and 2701 modems are used for IPDSLAM and 3600 3800 and 3801 are for FTTN and FTTP. Although 3801's have a known defect atm for FTTP's.

Almost. The 3600 is only used for FTTN -- not on FTTP. It has no red "Broadband" Ethernet port to connect to the ONT. Only 3800s/3801s can be used FTTP

And the bug on 3801s for FTTP is being corrected, and it is only a bug for IPTV -- causes no issues with Internet or VoIP

If you have a 3600, it is VDSL2 U-Verse aka FTTN, not ADSL2+ U-Verse, aka IPDSLAM (which uses either the Black Moto 2210 or the Silver & Black 2Wire 2701)

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Sun, 22 May 2011 00:44:16 EDT

MrAnderson posted : Only reason i ask is typically 2210 and 2701 modems are used for IPDSLAM and 3600 3800 and 3801 are for FTTN and FTTP. Although 3801's have a known defect atm for FTTP's.
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Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Sat, 21 May 2011 21:35:21 EDT

anon posted : It is IP-DSLAM from the CO, they don't have Uverse TV here. I had used the modem for Uverse Elite 6.0 up till May from the same CO fine but all I got was flashing DSL light and "seaching for DSL signal" from the modem.

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Sat, 21 May 2011 20:49:57 EDT

MrAnderson posted : urd89 were they IP-CO or FTTN HSIA only?

Re: IP-DSLAM FAQ

Sat, 21 May 2011 20:48:30 EDT

anon posted : Did ATT phase out the 2Wire 2701HGV-B? I helped someone order Uverse PRO 3.0 and tried my 2Wire 2701HGV-B from a previous Uverse install. For some reason the 2Wire 2701HGV-B wouldn't sync but the newer 2Wire 3600HGV-B would.