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Sammer

join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA

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reply to markofmayhem

Re: USA no longer equipped to practice democracy

said by markofmayhem:

The electorate is stuck choosing their candidates in less than 30 seconds of thought process due to one of three criteria: Party affiliation, stance on abortion/life, promise to lower taxes. That's it. That is what our representatives are responsible for in the eyes of the electorate.
Quite a few voters spend more than thirty seconds making their choice but the truth is politicians lie. Our current President ran to the center and benefited from anger against our last President but clearly intends to govern from the the far left despite having no mandate from the voters to do so. Politicians like him and many others from both sides of the aisle only serve to polarize the voters in the long run. The most difficult thing for voters is getting rid of politicians who lie but unfortunately many politicians are so skilled at telling lies they get away with it repeatedly.

sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
kudos:1

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said by Sammer:

said by markofmayhem:

The electorate is stuck choosing their candidates in less than 30 seconds of thought process due to one of three criteria: Party affiliation, stance on abortion/life, promise to lower taxes. That's it. That is what our representatives are responsible for in the eyes of the electorate.
Quite a few voters spend more than thirty seconds making their choice but the truth is politicians lie. Our current President ran to the center and benefited from anger against our last President but clearly intends to govern from the the far left despite having no mandate from the voters to do so. Politicians like him and many others from both sides of the aisle only serve to polarize the voters in the long run. The most difficult thing for voters is getting rid of politicians who lie but unfortunately many politicians are so skilled at telling lies they get away with it repeatedly.
*facepalm*
Far left? Are you deluded? What about about the recent healthcare bill is "far left"?

The bill is almost exactly what Republicans wanted back in '93. This would have been considered a Republican victory 15 years ago.

*YOU* represent what's wrong with America. There are too many stupid people who are so misinformed about real life and the world around them. They've been so spoiled by decades of America's world economic and military dominance they've never had to look beyond their own petty noses.

As they say, truth has a liberal bias.

WhatNow
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join:2009-05-06
Charlotte, NC

reply to Sammer
The biggest problem is most people only want to hear about the fight on the News. If they go into depth on issues they switch channel. Take the Health Care Bill just passed there was very little about what might be in the bill but most of the reports were about the fighting between the two parties.

When telephones first started there was open competition and the public got tired of every company running their own separate line. Look at the airline industry only one company may be making a profit. To much competition is good in the beginning but if no one is making money the infrastructure is not upgraded. Was the dot com successful for infrastructure? NO only about 1 company survived because most found it was harder and more expensive to build then it looks on paper.

For all those that are gung ho for net neutrality can the government come make you rent that spare bedroom at a set price. I have seen the Bells cut back on doing anything extra because they were being made to share under cost anything extra. That is one reason DSL hit 3 to 6 Meg and just stopped. More companies beget more CEOs and upper management not more technicians.


sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
kudos:1

said by WhatNow:

The biggest problem is most people only want to hear about the fight on the News. If they go into depth on issues they switch channel. Take the Health Care Bill just passed there was very little about what might be in the bill but most of the reports were about the fighting between the two parties.

When telephones first started there was open competition and the public got tired of every company running their own separate line. Look at the airline industry only one company may be making a profit. To much competition is good in the beginning but if no one is making money the infrastructure is not upgraded. Was the dot com successful for infrastructure? NO only about 1 company survived because most found it was harder and more expensive to build then it looks on paper.

For all those that are gung ho for net neutrality can the government come make you rent that spare bedroom at a set price. I have seen the Bells cut back on doing anything extra because they were being made to share under cost anything extra. That is one reason DSL hit 3 to 6 Meg and just stopped. More companies beget more CEOs and upper management not more technicians.
I don't know what you're trying to say. The lack of competition is directly related to the gutting of the 1996 Telecom Act by Republican FCC commissioners, Congress, and telecoms in court.

The dot com boom did lead to the buildout of a ton of infrastructure. It just happened so fast that most of the companies went bankrupt, and successful companies like Google were able to buy it all up for pennies on the dollar.

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most of that infrastructure is run today by the MSOs. Remember @Home? Comcast, Charter, Cox, Cablevision and many others were part of that deal. When @home went bankrupt the MSOs took over the network and still use and upgrade the systems still.
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joebarnhart
Paxio evangelist

join:2005-12-15
Santa Clara, CA

reply to sonicmerlin

said by sonicmerlin:

*YOU* represent what's wrong with America.
Actually, Sonic, I think the only thing wrong with America right now is that people can't have a reasonable discourse without resorting to personal attacks. The political process can't work with all the vitriol. We all need to chill and persuade others with our rhetoric, not demonize them.


JakCrow

join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA

reply to Sammer

said by Sammer:

said by markofmayhem:

The electorate is stuck choosing their candidates in less than 30 seconds of thought process due to one of three criteria: Party affiliation, stance on abortion/life, promise to lower taxes. That's it. That is what our representatives are responsible for in the eyes of the electorate.
Quite a few voters spend more than thirty seconds making their choice but the truth is politicians lie. Our current President ran to the center and benefited from anger against our last President but clearly intends to govern from the the far left despite having no mandate from the voters to do so. Politicians like him and many others from both sides of the aisle only serve to polarize the voters in the long run. The most difficult thing for voters is getting rid of politicians who lie but unfortunately many politicians are so skilled at telling lies they get away with it repeatedly.
Can you give us a break down on what far left policies he's implemented? Really. Can you?

markofmayhem
I can haz competition?
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join:2004-04-08
Pittsburgh, PA
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Stop!....

Far left, Far right... STOP!

There are more than "two" sides to everything, many many more. Republican - Democract. Left - Right. Socialist - Capatilist. Choice - Life. Conservative - Liberal. STOP! We need MORE choice, stop playing into the establishment where only two sides exist. If you have multiple opponents, you have to win yourself. If you only have one opponent, you don't have to win, they just have to lose.

IF YOU ONLY HAVE ONE OPPONENT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WIN VOTES, YOU JUST HAVE TO NOT LOSE. Demoralizing the opponents voter base is strategy #1, not convincing people you will serve them as a representative.

If you can't see the difference, learn. Stop playing into the polarization. Both Democrats and Republicans want one opponent only. Force them to have more so that we get more topics. Haven't you noticed how much more in-depth primaries usually are? With 4-5 candidates actually giving views, projections, ideas, background, "plans". Then the real election comes and it turns into "My opponent was on top of a hooker last night and was looking at your daughter this morning".
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