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baineschile
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Why

Why anyone still has VOIP when home phone bundles are available with cable/fiber; and the abundance of cellular options still confundles me.


fifty nine

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said by baineschile:

Why anyone still has VOIP when home phone bundles are available with cable/fiber; and the abundance of cellular options still confundles me.
You mean why does anyone have Vonage... I have CallCentric VOIP and it costs me $3.45 per month plus 2c/min for calls.

I have other providers such as Future Nine and CallWithUs for making international calls too.


unknvoip
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said by baineschile:

Why anyone still has VOIP when home phone bundles are available with cable/fiber; and the abundance of cellular options still confundles me.
Yes, why pay under $20/mo for something when you can pay about $40 for less?


N3OGH
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reply to baineschile
"Regulatory, Compliance and Intellectual Property Fee"

What a crock. If I'm paying for a service, aren't I all ready paying for their "intellectual property".

Once again, Vonage. BOO HOO BOOHOOHOO.

HOO HOO, Tell 'em Fred!

LINGER LONGER!
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Selenia
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said by baineschile:

Why anyone still has VOIP when home phone bundles are available with cable/fiber; and the abundance of cellular options still confundles me.
Cable service IS VOIP. That's why you need that special combo modem or a separate ATA for the service. Usually, it's prioritized over the cable co's network, so there sometimes is a benefit to ordering their service.

And Karl, if you really want to see under the line fees, take a look at my cell phone bill.
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fifty nine

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reply to unknvoip

said by unknvoip:

said by baineschile:

Why anyone still has VOIP when home phone bundles are available with cable/fiber; and the abundance of cellular options still confundles me.
Yes, why pay under $20/mo for something when you can pay about $40 for less?
My cable provider I've heard charges $60 to install phone service. Compare that to Vonage which is $25 to start up. Is that cheap?

I can get a VOIP account setup with callcentric or future nine for free. No startup costs.

I can use skype for unlimited outgoing calls for $3/month, no startup costs.

Cable phone service just seems expensive to me.


burgerwars

join:2004-09-11
Northridge, CA

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There should be a law against this.

There should be a law against this, as it allows companies like Vonage to deceptively advertise a low price when it is not. What's not to stop Vonage from advertising that their price is only 99 cents per month, and then when the bill arrives a customer sees all these added nonsense fees (regulatory recovery fee, cost of doing business fee, energy cost recovery fee, fixing the plumbing in the building fee, etc.)??? This has got to stop.

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Re: Why

said by baineschile:

Why anyone still has VOIP when home phone bundles are available with cable/fiber; and the abundance of cellular options still confundles me.
"Bundles" are overpriced compared to good-value VoIP providers such as CallCentric, Voip.MS, PhonePower, and VOIPo. They offer good service and a wide range of rate plans. Also the flexibility of the customer supplying the phone adapter device (BYOD) or where the phone adapter device is supplied by company (DISCO).

This is especially true after the "Bundle" starts to cost more after the promotional period.

"Bundles" MAY make sense for someone with very heavy outbound usage....

said by baineschile:

still confundles me.
I love that word, but did you mean confounds?

clickie

join:2005-05-22
Monroe, MI

reply to baineschile
Because cable bundles still want >$30 a month outside of the promotional pricing, which is ridiculous.

While cellular has its advantages, it still is pretty pricey to hang out on long calls with any sort of frequency. A price plan that permits you and those in your family to do so raises the bill at least $20, if not $40 or $60, which puts you right back to the >$30 a month payment.


WernerSchutz

join:2009-08-04
Sugar Land, TX

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reply to baineschile

said by baineschile:

Why anyone still has VOIP when home phone bundles are available with cable/fiber; and the abundance of cellular options still confundles me.
You are confused about a lot of things. Let me help you: it is cheaper and offers better service than cable's Voip. I have had Vonage for quite a while, still this non-fees raise irritates me.

WernerSchutz

join:2009-08-04
Sugar Land, TX

reply to burgerwars

Re: There should be a law against this.

said by burgerwars:

There should be a law against this, as it allows companies like Vonage to deceptively advertise a low price when it is not. What's not to stop Vonage from advertising that their price is only 99 cents per month, and then when the bill arrives a customer sees all these added nonsense fees (regulatory recovery fee, cost of doing business fee, energy cost recovery fee, fixing the plumbing in the building fee, etc.)??? This has got to stop.
Put a few of the crooks thinking these unfees in jail, along with their lobbyists and every asshole that defends such practices here and it will stop.

Fisamo
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Re: Why

Yeah, that one really made me laugh. I should pay an un-fee for them to defend their patents (or to defend themselves against allegations of infringement of others' patents)? That one belongs in the same class as the 'landscape maintenance for HQ' un-fee.


jeff17

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reply to burgerwars

Re: There should be a law against this.

ahhh. just like the 99 cent item on ebay that carries a $39.99 shipping fee.
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WernerSchutz

join:2009-08-04
Sugar Land, TX

reply to WernerSchutz

Re: Why

You may call their legal department 732 231 6705 and leave a message. I will write a letter to Congress regarding this unfees shit that has to stop. Maybe a class action lawsuit will start, Vonage could be a unlucky one to start with.


N3OGH
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reply to Fisamo
No shit.

Or, instead of blowing sunshine up my skirt, call it a "CEO likes good Scotch" fee.

Hey, I like good scotch as much as the next guy, so at least I could commiserate....
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hambone42
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reply to N3OGH
If I'm going to be paying an "Intellectual Property Fee", the least they can do is unlock my PAP2 for me on my way out the door once I've covered their subsidy.
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k1ll3rdr4g0n

join:2005-03-19
Homer Glen, IL

reply to unknvoip

said by unknvoip:

said by baineschile:

Why anyone still has VOIP when home phone bundles are available with cable/fiber; and the abundance of cellular options still confundles me.
Yes, why pay under $20/mo for something when you can pay about $40 for less?
Wait, you pay $20/month? I pay ~$30/3 months for skype (unlimited US calling + real number) .
And I have the converter box so that I can use a regular phone (including cordless).
Sure you have to keep your computer on, but do you really need to be called at 3AM? Most VoIP don't guarantee e911 services either. But, in today's society most people have a cell phone (I know someone will come along and say "I don't have one").


sivran
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I imagine some are like me--not willing to trust their phone service to their ISP.

My landline's had 100% uptime. My ISP can't say that.


vp71inet

join:2005-05-12
Englishtown, NJ

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reply to jeff17

Re: There should be a law against this.

said by jeff17:

ahhh. just like the 99 cent item on ebay that carries a $39.99 shipping fee.
You notice ...

Vonage survives as long as there are non-technical users looking to lower their phone bills.


NOCMan
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Colorado Springs, CO

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Re: Why

said by baineschile:

Why anyone still has VOIP when home phone bundles are available with cable/fiber; and the abundance of cellular options still confundles me.
Verizon 60 month no long distance
Comcast was 50 same issue
Both had no call waiting caller id etc either. All that was extra.

Vonage 30, unlimited LD, all features.. I move it moves with me, unplug it, it autoforwards to my cellular and I can also have my voicemails mailed to me etc.

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