| Oh great! We already have enough problems getting people to use current antivirus software and implement sensible security on their computers. If they add this shit to antivirus software, even fewer people will use it.
Yeah, that's just what we need to keep viruses, spyware, spam, and phishing at least somewhat in check.
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 roc5955Premium
join:2005-11-26
Rosendale, NY | Not to mention, antivirus software like McAffee, and Symantec which are already hogs, will become even more bloated.
They will strike up a deal with some AV company, to share the 'profits' with them. When the rest follow, we are all screwed.
Between bloatware, and legitimate copying of CDs, etc. there will be more false positives, and more slow computers than you can think. Either that, or people would just not use any security software. But wait, here comes Microsoft. If they build it into their MRT, Windoze will slow down enough to become slug bait.
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 swhx7Premium
join:2006-07-23
Elbonia | reply to ISurfTooMuch
It couldn't work even if it were attempted.
The vast majority of all files on the internet are copyrighted - web pages, images, audio and video, and software: only a small percentage are public domain. So it's not a question of filtering everything that's copyrighted. Infringement occurs only if the file is copyrighted *and* shared without authorization.
But how could software decide whether client C has permission to access file F from server S, and whether S has permission to serve it to C? Obviously there is no way this data could be checked for every internet transaction. The database would have to be bigger than the internet itself, and the whole population of the world would have to work all day and night to maintain it, doing nothing else.
So, presumably, what these arrogant greed-heads really mean is that every internet transaction has to be filtered against a list of their companies' products - at the expense of someone other than their companies, and slowing all the world's data traffic.
Why should anyone do that for them? And again, even this lesser endeavor couldn't work. If it's by title, it can be foiled by changing the names. If it's by hash, it can be foiled by re-encoding or changing a few bytes.
Thus, it would amount to simpy throwing a monkey wrench in every PC or router, with no effect on piracy. Of course, sociopaths don't care about collateral damage, they just want to dominate and manipulate everyone. |
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 GbcueAlmost P.E.Premium
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said by roc5955:Not to mention, antivirus software like McAffee, and Symantec which are already hogs, will become even more bloated. They will strike up a deal with some AV company, to share the 'profits' with them. When the rest follow, we are all screwed. Between bloatware, and legitimate copying of CDs, etc. there will be more false positives, and more slow computers than you can think. Either that, or people would just not use any security software. But wait, here comes Microsoft. If they build it into their MRT, Windoze will slow down enough to become slug bait. You know, you don't have to install the software...
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McRat
join:2009-09-09
Corona, CA | reply to roc5955
Not a problem. Have the RIAA/MPAA just pay for it. Assume a millisec for processing a file move/open transaction (anything could be copyright theft), and 1000 transactions a day per computer. So 1 second per day times 300,000,000 computers times whatever Screen Actors Guild union rate is. $25/hr? In my head that would be about $800,000,000/yr for leasing time on our computers.
Of course I'm making up those numbers, but the cost to the public will be far more than just lost time and increased costs of devices, services, and software needed to appease them. Remember Macrovision and other failed attempts as security that caused a poor quality or unreadable media to legitimate buyers? There will be bugs, there always is, and there will be hacks, there always is. So all it will do is anger law abiding customers and steal from them.
Funny, if RIAA/MPAA members sell me data that will not work as advertised, and they KNOW it will happen on X% of devices, then why isn't that theft? If I take $20 out of their desk when their back is turned, why is that a crime, and when they sell me a product with a no-returns policy that they know might not be valid, it's a legal way to make money? |
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| said by McRat:Funny, if RIAA/MPAA members sell me data that will not work as advertised, and they KNOW it will happen on X% of devices, then why isn't that theft? If I take $20 out of their desk when their back is turned, why is that a crime, and when they sell me a product with a no-returns policy that they know might not be valid, it's a legal way to make money? Just do a chargeback 
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 Sr TechPremium
join:2003-01-19
New Fairfield, CT | reply to Gbcue
Very true, just boycott the companies who support RIAA.... |
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said by ISurfTooMuch:We already have enough problems getting people to use current antivirus software and implement sensible security on their computers. If they add this shit to antivirus software, even fewer people will use it. Yeah, that's just what we need to keep viruses, spyware, spam, and phishing at least somewhat in check. Idiots. An easy way to solve that problem is not to use Windows (which, btw, has built-in DRM itself). That's part of the reason I use nothing but FOSS software.
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 JRW2R.I.P. Mom, Brian, Ziggy, Max and Zen.Premium
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said by McRat:Remember Macrovision and other failed attempts as security that caused a poor quality or unreadable media to legitimate buyers? Yep!!
And people STOPPED buying software that used it..
Do you remember what the fix was??
LOWER PRICES!!!
When the price came down for the software, people chose to buy it, and the accompanying documentation rather than copy it..
Amazing how when a certain price point is found, people BUY your product.. 
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An easy way to solve that problem is not to use Windows (which, btw, has built-in DRM itself). That's part of the reason I use nothing but FOSS software. I would agree as long as the Hardware manufacturers and ISPs don't fall for this.
Use Linux for your operating system.
And, use FOSS software that can be installed on routers. |
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said by ISurfTooMuch: If they add this shit to antivirus software, even fewer people will use it. Yeah, that's just what we need to keep viruses, spyware, spam, and phishing at least somewhat in check. Idiots. Makes me glad I switched to Linux... I don't need AV software. |
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said by McRat:Not a problem. Have the RIAA/MPAA just pay for it. Assume a millisec for processing a file move/open transaction (anything could be copyright theft), and 1000 transactions a day per computer. So 1 second per day times 300,000,000 computers times whatever Screen Actors Guild union rate is. $25/hr? In my head that would be about $800,000,000/yr for leasing time on our computers. That's a great idea! If they do this, I will generate and send them a new invoice every day until they block my email address, then change and start over with a new one. If we all did this either electronically, or by snail mail, we'd bury them. "OMG! We got 4 million invoices today alone! If this keeps up, we'll have no room on our servers. We can't delete them fast enough!"
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join:2004-03-07
Canada | reply to Gbcue
Too much junk software and preloads out there as it is. If you don't feed a beast, the beast dies.
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