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MalibuMaxx
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Re: Holy cow, Netflix really does use a lot of bandwidth ...

I have 6 computers in the house, 1 xbox, 1 xbox360, 1 PS3, 2 Ipod touches, 1 PDA. I have Netflix and frequent HD videos and SD content. We have 5 ppl in the house. I just don't see using 250 GB. We average about 60 at most per month. Just saying... I could see if you can go over the 250 gb limit... but I know our family would have to try very hard... and me and my brother game over 15+ hours a week. As well as consume other content. I frequently download images and have my own hyper-v server... etc etc... its just seems hard... However I do use my works internet connection frequently for image downloads as well... sooo...


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Bandwidth consumption of my router, much is due to Netflix
said by MalibuMaxx:

I have 6 computers in the house, 1 xbox, 1 xbox360, 1 PS3, 2 Ipod touches, 1 PDA. I have Netflix and frequent HD videos and SD content. We have 5 ppl in the house. I just don't see using 250 GB. We average about 60 at most per month. Just saying... I could see if you can go over the 250 gb limit... but I know our family would have to try very hard... and me and my brother game over 15+ hours a week. As well as consume other content. I frequently download images and have my own hyper-v server... etc etc... its just seems hard... However I do use my works internet connection frequently for image downloads as well... sooo...
My spouse and I came home about 11 AM this morning on a day off. We had some errands to run earlier then watched some Netflix. The programs watched were "Sprawling From Grace: The Consequences of Suburbanization","Killer at Large: Why Obesity is America's Greatest Threat" and currently my wife is watching "The Six Wives of Henry VIII" (episode 3).

To the best of my understanding none of these are HD. There have been no other downloads (possibly automatic AV updates, only 2 PC's have been on, we don't have automatic email checking enabled, no browsers were open), but no other streaming and really until Henry started, I wasn't using my PC either.

The graph above indicates mostly Netflix usage for this afternoon.

My kids and I regularly play WoW, we download video via DirecTV often enough, some of it HD. We have 4 VOIP phone lines. Additionally we have 2 PS3's, 1 Xbox 360 and 2 Wii's. All the prior devices when used over a 24 hour period don't come close to the consumption of an hour or two of Netflix in my experience.
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MalibuMaxx
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Yea, I know when I was watching LOST on Netflix and I was watching 7-8 hours a day... trying to catch up for the next season I was getting a good 10-15 GB consumption per day. Like I said I can see how its possible but you would really have to try is all I'm saying.


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said by MalibuMaxx:

Yea, I know when I was watching LOST on Netflix and I was watching 7-8 hours a day... trying to catch up for the next season I was getting a good 10-15 GB consumption per day. Like I said I can see how its possible but you would really have to try is all I'm saying.
Until we have 2, 3 or 4 sets running IPTV. Then it may not be as difficult.
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Another data point. I just finished watching "Outsourced" via Netflix instant streaming. It is an HD movie. I took a snapshot of the traffic at the beginning and the end of the movie. The numbers are:


Date Time Downstream Upstream
Apr 18 13:36:22 4,562,200,162 562,646,050
Apr 18 14:00:01 5,326,113,698 574,868,378
Apr 18 15:00:01 7,120,817,370 604,758,131
Apr 18 15:20:57 7,633,710,744 613,650,259


Looks like about 3.1GB for the hour and 42 minute movie.


JohnInSJ
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San Jose, CA

said by camper:

Looks like about 3.1GB for the hour and 42 minute movie.
And google calls that...
(3.1 gigabytes) / (102 minutes) = 531.141438 kBps

which is....

((3.1 GB) / (102 minutes)) * (60 minutes) = 1.82352941 gigabytes

Per hour.

Or, pretty much in the old ball park.
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ahhnold

join:2003-12-04
Orland Park, IL
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said by camper:

I took a snapshot of the traffic at the beginning and the end of the movie. The numbers are:

Date Time Downstream Upstream
Apr 18 13:36:22 4,562,200,162 562,646,050
Apr 18 15:20:57 7,633,710,744 613,650,259

That difference is 3072 MBytes.

Using VPC1 HD rate of 3.8 Mbits/Sec, WMA 2.0 Audio Encoder rate of 220 kbits/Sec including protocol overhead sums to an aggregate rate of 4.02 Mbits/sec.

102 minute movie is 6120 seconds in length.

The movie has a total size of:
4.02 Mbits/Sec * 6120 Sec = 24,602 Mbits.

Converting from bits to Bytes:
24,602 Mbits / ( 8 bits / 1 Byte ) = 3075 MBytes or 3.075 GBytes.

So all the math works as expected within an error factor of 1*10^-4

That rate can be generalized to 1809 MBytes/Hour ... for now.

Later this year Netflix is supposed to start streaming multichannel audio which will bump up the audio rate between 250 and 500 kbits/sec. That moves the aggregate rate for an HD movie to 1935 Mbytes/Hour.