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3 edits | said by Karl Bode:I don't either. I use Netflix streaming via 360 almost exclusively. But understand we're simply in the (fairly vast) minority. We're also technically oriented, and not terrified of connecting a new, strange box to our television. True and it is only in its infancy state (5yrs or less for most (10yrs for me)). We will see it evolve and advance from the way it is now to the way it will become the standard.
At some point, you will be able to use a remote and switch a "Internet broadcast channel", just like you can for cable (people like to have something which they are a custom to)...
xBox 360 & some Blu-ray Players (built in Internet TV & Radio) are already out for example.
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Eh, this article seems like a David v.s. Goliath issue, but its really not. Obiviously, when big TV companies start to see a more significant revenue decreasing trend, they will try and get in on the action (eg. Comcast buying NBC), instead of halting it.
Big TV, for the most part, has adapted pretty well. Analog, Digital, adding products sucessfully (internet and phone), High Definition, DVR, etc. Every STB I have ever had has a CAT5 port on it, I am assuming for some sort of activation later.
I definitely expect an IP delivery of video service eventually, provided by big cable/fiber (along with some of their owned content as well, of course). |
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I cut my cable years ago.I will download TV shows to watch them as my reception sucks.The shows I like I go out and buy boxsets each year they come out. |
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said by OldschoolDSL:I personally do not subscribe to paid TV because the shows I watch, I can get for FREE online (legally). But for how long do you think they'll offer those shows for free with few commercials? |
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said by OldschoolDSL:At some point, you will be able to use a remote and switch a "Internet broadcast channel", just like you can for cable (people like to have something which they are a custom to)... Won't happen until the majority of cable TV settops are provided by the cable company. Most people choose the path of least resistance and rent a box from the cableco. |
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| said by fifty nine:said by OldschoolDSL:I personally do not subscribe to paid TV because the shows I watch, I can get for FREE online (legally). But for how long do you think they'll offer those shows for free with few commercials? Not very long. It will be only a matter of time before they'll try to make it a subscription paid service and on top of that, we'll have commercials. With any luck, it maybe cheaper though (we can hope).
said by fifty nine:said by OldschoolDSL:At some point, you will be able to use a remote and switch a "Internet broadcast channel", just like you can for cable (people like to have something which they are a custom to)... Won't happen until the majority of cable TV settops are provided by the cable company. Most people choose the path of least resistance and rent a box from the cableco. True.
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the issue is going to be twenty-somethings in the next 10 years or so. Like what is being seen with landline phone service and younger people - no landlines, only cell phone. |
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said by Karl Bode:I don't either. I use Netflix streaming via 360 almost exclusively. But understand we're simply in the (fairly vast) minority. We're also technically oriented, and not terrified of connecting a new, strange box to our television. My television has Netflix built in. I suspect all future high end TV's will eventually have internet capability. I plan to drop DirecTV HBO to recover more than my Netflix subscription cost.
My only concern is that my Comcast HSI bandwidth may be inadequate when we have 3 or 4 sets running Netflix, Hulu, Youtube, or whatever other service seems good at the time.
It appears Netflix can easily consume 1 GB per hour for just one set on a SD program. This may vary a lot depending on the device managing the stream. See - »Holy cow, Netflix really does use a lot of bandwidth ...
How will Comcast manage 200 families on a node each drawing 1-4 GB per hour during prime time?
I recall AT&T and Verizon scoffing at VOIP. Then along came Comcast Digital Voice, Vonage, and a slew of others. The same is going to happen to video content IMO.
I wonder, if we subscribe to a service which is located in another country and has servers outside the U.S., could they have different copyright rules? If so, which copyright rules apply when watching content they provide securely to my set? The future will at least be interesting.
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said by OldschoolDSL:With any luck, it maybe cheaper though (we can hope). I think as long as they have to compete with piracy they will keep it reasonably priced and of superior quality.
The easiest way to discourage piracy is to make your customer feel they are getting their money's worth. Customer loyalty goes a long way.
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1 edit | Don't hold your breath, you won't be enjoying that for to much longer.
The reason the CEO's don't worry about it is because they are in control. As soon as it start to become more main stream and the rats start to jump ship to the internet TV and drop cable TV all together, you will see these CEO's change the internet usage price/fees. You will be priced out of getting your TV by the internet as it will just cost to much. Not only that but you may even have to pay both ends. That is pay for the TV channel/show and then internet service and usage (megs/month) charges.
It is only a matter of time and the time we all start to jump ship from standard cable TV is when it will happen. Trust me. I know.
Maybe in about 10 to 20 years when everyone has access to very high speed internet will all TV shift to internet delivery. By then the cable companies will be pushing everyone to it. |
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IF all ISP's dont add CAPS, in the long run, what will really happen? TV revenue for the incumbants go down, price for internet only lines go up. Simple common sense. This is way different than VoIP. |
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kudos:4 | said by ITALIAN926:IF all ISP's dont add CAPS, in the long run, what will really happen? TV revenue for the incumbants go down, price for internet only lines go up. Simple common sense. This is way different than VoIP. Which eventually in the end will be a wash.
remember when $24.99 vonage was $24.99 out the door? now they're no better than the telephone companies with all the BS fees!
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said by mmainprize:Don't hold your breath, you won't be enjoying that for to much longer. Oh, believe me, I've enjoyed either fair prices or piracy for over two decades and I will certainly continue to (I will admit, most of those 20 years were piracy, but that's just because fair prices weren't available). Even if internet connections are locked down so tight that no piracy can happen anymore, I will just go back to a group pooling its money buying a single copy and making copies or sharing it.
Sneakernet is unstoppable.
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I use ps3 media server, myself. HD episodes look way better on an HDTV than cable, who uses much worse compression than my h264 conversions. Rip it, download it, record it, add it to the library. Gives a huge on-demand library in high quality video, in no time. If I actually need to watch live, then I just switch to dual head mode in the den or bedroom and run it from the second monitor(The TV via DVI). The revolution is here. It's just reaching the ignorant masses that is the issue. Some consider an old fashioned stereo consisting of all separate components just too complicated to setup, even though it's common sense. Let me see Line-out on the CD player goes to hmmm. CD in! In other words, the device would have to be painfully simply to setup, not just painfully easy to use, but needing some assembly(like my setup).
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And the logical conclusion to your scenario is that broadband will be reclassified as telecommuncations and then governed similarly to the telco industry today. |
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What do you do about live sporting events?
OTA might cover some of it, but there's a reason ESPN gets away with being a massive chunk of everyone's cable bills.
I'm making this argument and I don't even watch sports. I do know that the vast majority of my friends and family would revolt at the idea of not having access to it. Yes, TV service can be expensive, but it's not THAT much and in the bigger scheme of things it's very cheap entertainment. If proper IPTV services become a viable competitor, prices will probably adjust downwards, too.
If Hulu ever starts making a dent in normal TV viewership, it will go away, fast. So far Hulu's been pretty aggressive about getting their video OFF of TV interfaces. Watching shows on your PC works for single people, but not so much for families that like to watch shows together.
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You have to put it in context though. Internet delivered shows that are also run on TV aren't held with the same value as first run on network TV.
Instead, they are slightly above re-runs but below first run shows. |
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said by dvd536:Which eventually in the end will be a wash. remember when $24.99 vonage was $24.99 out the door? now they're no better than the telephone companies with all the BS fees! What are you talking about? I save at least a couple of hundred dollars a month using Vonage compared to POTS long distance. Or did you just ignore the outrageous long distance charges that POTS charges (+ THEIR "fees") with your silly comment?
$200 +/month or $33.00 w/"fees" (taxes)/month (including no limit international) = hmmm, let me see......no brainer.
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