 trparkyApple... YUMPremium,MVM join:2000-05-24 Cleveland, OH kudos:1 Reviews:
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3 edits | May 5th DNS changes, uVerse, and you "Your resolver announced a buffer size bigger than the largest packet that it can receive."
Announced buffer size: 4096 bytes Measured buffer size: 3838 bytes EDNS enabled: yes DNSSEC enabled: yes
quote: This scenario can cause problems for a resolver, because it expects to receive large responses, but they never make it through for a number of reasons. The most common causes are firewalls which block DNS packets bigger than 512 bytes, or fragmentation, which causes a large DNS packet to be broken up into smaller fragments which routers and/or firewalls don't know how to handle. We recommend that you configure your network, routers and firewalls to handle larger packets and/or fragments. If this isn't a viable option, you could consider lowering the announced buffer size in your resolver to match the actual size that it can receive. This will at least allow packets to get through, even if it causes truncation. Your resolver can then immediately fall back to TCP. See below on how to configure BIND and Unbound to set specific buffer sizes.
That's what I get when I test the RG's DNS Resolver. So, what does this all mean for us uVerse users on May 5th? -- Tom |
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 djrobx join:2000-05-31 Valencia, CA kudos:1 1 edit | Ok, I'm totally lost. Other than a lot of Cinco de Mayo partying, what's happening on May 5? -- AT&T U-Hearse Your funeral. Delivered.
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 trparkyApple... YUMPremium,MVM join:2000-05-24 Cleveland, OH kudos:1 | »www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/13/dnssec/ -- Tom |
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 JonPremium join:2001-01-20 Lisle, IL 1 edit | reply to trparky Please explain why I should care about this? Seriously, not being a smart ass. I just have no idea what this means.
Edit: Oh okay.I read the article. Meh, I doubt it'll be a problem. |
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 trparkyApple... YUMPremium,MVM join:2000-05-24 Cleveland, OH kudos:1 | With the changes that are going to happen on the 5th of next month it could mean that a whole hell of a lot of people aren't going to be able to look-up domain names, especially people with older routers. -- Tom |
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 | Sounds more like another year 2000 all computers will crash scare cause they can't handle the date. Any major DNS server will be up to date on this and most all users will not notice anything on May 5th. 
Chris |
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 | The U-Verse RG handles EDNS queries just fine:
D:\dig-files3>dig @192.168.1.254 txt test.rs.ripe.net +short
rst.x3828.rs.ripe.net.
rst.x3833.x3828.rs.ripe.net.
rst.x3839.x3833.x3828.rs.ripe.net.
"151.164.11.208 DNS reply size limit is at least 3839 bytes"
"151.164.11.208 sent EDNS buffer size 4096"
"151.164.11.208 summary bs=4096,rs=3839,edns=1,do=1"
D:\dig-files3>
That is a test query to see if the U-Verse RG will properly make and receive an EDNS query, and it does. I also tested the upstream U-Verse resolvers in my area (68.94.156.1 and 68.94.157.1) and they also work correctly with EDNS.
As has been mentioned, this is not really a problem for end users. As long as your ISP has done it's homework and made sure their DNS servers operate properly, you won't have a issue. |
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1 edit | reply to trparky Test results for resolver: 192.168.99.1
Announced buffer size: 4096 bytes Measured buffer size: 3839 bytes EDNS enabled: yes DNSSEC enabled: yes
We successfully received a response much larger than 512 bytes, so I'd say this means we're good to go. -- AT&T U-Hearse Your funeral. Delivered.
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 JTM1051Premium,MVM join:2000-07-08 Moorpark, CA kudos:1 | reply to trparky Last paragraph of the article:
"Home users using residential hubs should not panic if these tests return scary results. According to Mitchell, it currently only matters that the ISP supports DNSSEC. A dodgy Netgear box is not enough to kill your internet... cross fingers." |
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 DNSguy join:2006-04-09 Broomfield, CO kudos:3 | reply to trparky That Register article was nothing but a bunch of FUD.
The only thing that is changing on May 5th is that the root name servers will start replying with signed DNSSEC answers if and only if the downstream resolver ASKS for them. If the downstream resolver does not ask, things will continue to work as they do today.
There is a second issue to this in that a lot of firewalls and home routers restrict a UDP DNS response to a 512 byte packet.
When you include DNSSEC information, most DNS responses will be larger that that. If the packet size is restricted, the query will be performed over TCP which has more overhead due to handshaking. This, in turn, could slow down your DNS resolution times.
The RG does not restrict the DNS UDP packet size, so this is not a problem with U-Verse. |
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 trparkyApple... YUMPremium,MVM join:2000-05-24 Cleveland, OH kudos:1 Reviews:
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| said by DNSguy:The RG does not restrict the DNS UDP packet size, so this is not a problem with U-Verse. That's the answer I was looking for!!!!
So we get to avoid a possible replay of the whole DNS issue we were all having with the older RG firmwares. -- Tom |
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 | SomeJoe already answered it up a few posts before dnsguy. 
Chris |
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