| reply to openbox9
Re: Good... In the grand scheme of things, it really doesn't matter. Accuracy in advertising a product doesn't matter? |
|
openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | That's not what I wrote Karl. The average consumer doesn't care about, or won't realize a difference between coax and fiber as far as their communications capabilities go. |
|
| reply to Karl Bode
Verizon tries to lead on that 100Mb over fiber is faster than 100Mb over copper. |
|
| Yea well, they have been specific in the past that their UPLOAD speeds are faster than cable... and THIS IS TRUE. Then in response, the cable companies respond with commercials comparing themselves to DSL. Cmon now. |
|
Host:
Road Runner
PC gaming GAMES
PC gaming Tech
| reply to battleop
said by battleop:Verizon tries to lead on that 100Mb over fiber is faster than 100Mb over copper. They do? I hadn't seen that. Are you referring to a specific ad? |
|
 alchav
join:2002-05-17
Palm Desert, CA | reply to battleop
said by battleop:Verizon tries to lead on that 100Mb over fiber is faster than 100Mb over copper. Okay, Battleop here is the Average Person that doesn't understand Bandwidth. There is a big difference between Fiber and Copper. The Bandwidth in Copper is limited just like in Fiber, but the Fiber Pipe is much bigger! |
|
|
|
1 edit | reply to openbox9
If that were the case, then why are all these cable co's trying to lead consumers to believe they are using nothing but fiber in their networks? |
|
| reply to openbox9
said by openbox9:That's not what I wrote Karl. The average consumer doesn't care about, or won't realize a difference between coax and fiber as far as their communications capabilities go. Average consumers did not use to know either about lead paint, mercury poisoning or dangers of being electrocuted. |
|
| reply to openbox9
said by openbox9:That's not what I wrote Karl. You seem to be implying consumers are idiots who can't come to grips with the idea that fiber is superior. I heartily disagree. |
|
BiggA
join:2005-11-23
EARTH Reviews:
 ·Comcast
| reply to battleop
They sort of have a point. Upstream is faster, it's a dedicated line (at least to the CO), and the phone and video have their own systems. The TV has an 860mhz system dedicated to broadcast video signals, while the cable company has to smush broadcast video, VOD, DOCSIS for internet and phone on the same line. In reality, if cable wanted to upgrade, they could out-build Fios's current capacity with no FTTH, and both systems could provide more bandwidth than anyone actually could use. |
|
| reply to Karl Bode
said by Karl Bode:In the grand scheme of things, it really doesn't matter. Accuracy in advertising a product doesn't matter? Not really. Almost every ad in existence is misleading in some way. That is the whole purpose of ads.
"Buyer Beware" should be a concept that should be taught starting in grade school and hammered in to their little pointy heads until they graduate from high school.
--
Are you happy with your rep in Washington, DC? |
|
 newviewEx .. Ex .. ExactlyPremium
join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD
kudos:1
 ·Vonage
 ·DIRECTV
| reply to openbox9
said by openbox9:The average consumer doesn't care about, or won't realize a difference between coax and fiber as far as their communications capabilities go. . . . and they never will, as long as ALL communications companies continue to blur the distinctions, neglect to fully inform, and out-and-out LIE about it.
--
Ö¿Ö
The Rules of Spam | Maryland's Newest Anti-Spam Law
Where are we going? And what's with the hand basket? |
|
| reply to fAcEtIOUs
said by fAcEtIOUs:said by Karl Bode:In the grand scheme of things, it really doesn't matter. Accuracy in advertising a product doesn't matter? Not really. Almost every ad in existence is misleading in some way. That is the whole purpose of ads. "Buyer Beware" should be a concept that should be taught starting in grade school and hammered in to their little pointy heads until they graduate from high school. I believe the law actually points to what a resonable person would believe. IE you can lie and say your drink gives a person wings because a resonable person would know that isn't true.
Tell them you have a fiber network a reasonable person believes your entire network is fiber, not just fiber to the node and copper to the premises. |
|
 KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium
join:2009-02-11
Earth Orbit
kudos:3
·Comcast
| reply to Karl Bode
said by Karl Bode:said by battleop:Verizon tries to lead on that 100Mb over fiber is faster than 100Mb over copper. They do? I hadn't seen that. Are you referring to a specific ad? That's like.... what's heavier, a pound of feathers or a pound of lead?
--
All the wealthy, unhappy people you've ever met take sleeping pills; Mobile Infantrymen don't need them. Give a cap trooper a bunk and time to sack out in it, and he's as happy as a worm in an apple—asleep. |
|
 Simba7I Void Warranties
join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT | reply to digitalfreak
said by digitalfreak:If that were the case, then why are all these cable co's trying to lead consumers to believe they are using nothing but fiber in their networks? The reason behind this is almost everyone knows fiber is "Super Fast", so they want to market their product as "Fiber Optic Fast", when in reality no fiber is actually reaching the house. It's a marketing ploy, which makes most engineers bang their head against the wall due to utter stupidity from corporate HQ.
Almost like Qwest saying their 12 and 20mbps DSL service is "Fiber Optic Fast Internet". Bullsh*t. Fiber IS Fiber.. Fiber IS NOT Copper. If you can shove a beam of light through a copper wire, then I'd be really impressed.
--
Bresnan 15M/1M
MyWS[P4HT@3.2GHz,2GB RAM,2x1TB HDDs,Win7]
WifeWS[P4HT@3GHz,2GB RAM,60GB HDD,Win7]
Router[2xP3@1GHz,512MB RAM,18GB HDD,SMC 8432BTA,2xDigital DE504,Compaq NC3131,Intel Pro/1000MT,IBM Gigabit Ethernet-SX,Allied Telesyn AT-2560FX,Gentoo Linux] |
|
 kpfx
join:2005-10-28
San Antonio, TX
·RoadRunner Cable
1 edit | reply to sonicmerlin
He would be correct, most people don't know or even care about these things. Heck, most people don't even know what a "browser" is (as Google found out by asking random people in Times Square).
You think any of these people would know (or even care) if their Internet comes over glass, copper, or carrier pigeons?
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4MwTvtyrUQ |
|
 en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Many consumers are 'sheep', and use what is cheap or popular. |
|
 DryvlyneFar Beyond DrivenPremium
join:2004-08-30
Newark, OH | reply to kpfx
Wow, I hate ignorant people. It's no wonder the rest of the world is sailing past the US in just about everything these days. |
|
openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | reply to digitalfreak
Because Verizon started the advertising war of "fiber is better". |
|
openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | reply to WernerSchutz
So copper is hazardous to our health? |
|
