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Re: Good... Verizon tries to lead on that 100Mb over fiber is faster than 100Mb over copper. |
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said by battleop:Verizon tries to lead on that 100Mb over fiber is faster than 100Mb over copper. They do? I hadn't seen that. Are you referring to a specific ad? |
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Palm Desert, CA | reply to battleop
said by battleop:Verizon tries to lead on that 100Mb over fiber is faster than 100Mb over copper. Okay, Battleop here is the Average Person that doesn't understand Bandwidth. There is a big difference between Fiber and Copper. The Bandwidth in Copper is limited just like in Fiber, but the Fiber Pipe is much bigger! |
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They sort of have a point. Upstream is faster, it's a dedicated line (at least to the CO), and the phone and video have their own systems. The TV has an 860mhz system dedicated to broadcast video signals, while the cable company has to smush broadcast video, VOD, DOCSIS for internet and phone on the same line. In reality, if cable wanted to upgrade, they could out-build Fios's current capacity with no FTTH, and both systems could provide more bandwidth than anyone actually could use. |
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said by Karl Bode:said by battleop:Verizon tries to lead on that 100Mb over fiber is faster than 100Mb over copper. They do? I hadn't seen that. Are you referring to a specific ad? That's like.... what's heavier, a pound of feathers or a pound of lead?
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kudos:3 | reply to Karl Bode
said by Karl Bode:said by battleop:Verizon tries to lead on that 100Mb over fiber is faster than 100Mb over copper. They do? I hadn't seen that. Are you referring to a specific ad? Doesn't matter...
"Fiber is better"
"lightening fast speeds"
"more reliable"
..all are used by verizon to say that fiber is better - which is a matter of opinion in the end.
I live in a fiber/coax system that delivers 50mb speeds over coax last mile and the results are the same as what verizon delivers.. reliable, fast internet. I've had Surewest "super" fiber service as well.. and to be honest, found it laggy for "fast fiber connection"..
And Yes, verizon does try to make out that 100mb over fiber is better than copper... see ANY Xfinity commercial. They advertise their "FIBER" server as "better" just becuase it's fiber... while fiber is a more advanced delivery medium, in the end, they're currently doing the same thing.
Karl, you know better.. they ALL advertise and they ALL work to find that fine line. |
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kudos:3 | reply to alchav
It's not the fiber that makes it better.. it's the equipment that drives it and the power put behind it that matters. I can point you to a development in Iowa, Huxcomm, that offers 2 meg internet over Fiber. In that area, MediaCom is kicking their butt left and right.
In this case, is fiber or coax "better"....
They need to get off the wire and talk about themselves. In the end, as others have said, it doesn't matter if the fiber goes all the way to the home or not. It doesn't matter if they're using twisted pair or not. People say DSL is better and it's using older twisted pair over cable's much thicker coax cable. So, in this example, coax is a newer, larger pipe that CAN deliver more.. does this mean that cable should claim victory over DSL? NO! It all matters, in the end, HOW WELL you deliver the service.. not WHAT you deliver it over. |
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| said by fiberguy:It all matters, in the end, HOW WELL you deliver the service.. not WHAT you deliver it over. I don't normally agree with you as I consider it selecting the lesser of two evils when considering between the cable and phone companies, but I do completely agree with the above statement. It's the company and their ability to deliver a stable, price competitive, service that matters most. |
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alchav
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Palm Desert, CA | reply to fiberguy
said by fiberguy:It's not the fiber that makes it better.. it's the equipment that drives it and the power put behind it that matters. I can point you to a development in Iowa, Huxcomm, that offers 2 meg internet over Fiber. In that area, MediaCom is kicking their butt left and right. In this case, is fiber or coax "better".... They need to get off the wire and talk about themselves. In the end, as others have said, it doesn't matter if the fiber goes all the way to the home or not. It doesn't matter if they're using twisted pair or not. People say DSL is better and it's using older twisted pair over cable's much thicker coax cable. So, in this example, coax is a newer, larger pipe that CAN deliver more.. does this mean that cable should claim victory over DSL? NO! It all matters, in the end, HOW WELL you deliver the service.. not WHAT you deliver it over. So what are you trying to say, that people hang on Words or Perceptions? Of course it takes the electronics behind the infrastructure to make it work better than the other. You talk about twisted pair Copper, yes it's still being used and very efficient, AT&T U-Verse is an example. Is this better than Fiber, no, and AT&T uses some pretty good electronics behind this. The other thing that no one mentions is durability, Fiber the way it is manufactured and in-cased, will last longer than Coax or twisted pair Copper. |
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