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Mizzat
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Re: Google's plan for unsubsidized phones dies

said by FFH:

Looks like Google's plan to bypass the carriers and push the unsubsidized phone model has crashed and burned. U.S. buyers are just too hooked on buying subsidized phones, even though they ultimately pay close to full price for it over the length of a 2 yr cell plan.

Also what helped kill it was the fact that Google has one of the worst customer service organizations on the planet. The cell service providers get bad marks for customer service, but they look great compared to what Google offers.
Buying an unsubsidized phone is silly, the rates for the carriers are the same wether you buy it subsidized or not, so it is built into thier pricing. Now if they offered a discount for brining your own hardware, or price went down after your commitment....

So to take full advantage you should upgrade everytime you're able and sell your new or old phone. It just makes sense.
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Philmatic
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said by Mizzat:

Now if they offered a discount for brining your own hardware, or price went down after your commitment....
T-Mobile does exactly that...


ArrayList
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said by Philmatic:

said by Mizzat:

Now if they offered a discount for brining your own hardware, or price went down after your commitment....
T-Mobile does exactly that...
I was going to say that exactly.
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said by Mizzat:

So to take full advantage you should upgrade everytime you're able and sell your new or old phone. It just makes sense.
who is going to buy the phone your selling if everyone is constantly getting new subsidized phones?

personally I don't think cellullar companies should be selling phones. I think they should focus on service exclusively.
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sonicmerlin

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said by ArrayList:

said by Philmatic:

said by Mizzat:

Now if they offered a discount for brining your own hardware, or price went down after your commitment....
T-Mobile does exactly that...
I was going to say that exactly.
But it's not enough, and the discount is unrelated to the cost of the phone you bring. A cursory glance at European service plans shows that bringing your own phone saves you a huge amount of money. With T-Mobile you only save $10/month, ultimately making it cheaper to just buy a phone with a contract.


RockyBB
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reply to Mizzat

said by Mizzat:

Buying an unsubsidized phone is silly ... sell your new or old phone. It just makes sense.
Sell to who? someone who is silly by buying an unsubsidized phone?


Philmatic
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reply to sonicmerlin

Try $20/month, Unlimited Talk/Text/Web is $79.99 when you bring a phone, or $99.99 if you are in a contract.

$20/month (Savings over subsidized) * 24 months (Standard contract) = $480 savings over the course of your contract.

That is an EXTRA $130 in savings over buying a cheaper subsidized phone (Nexus One in my example) and sticking with the more expensive plan.


iansltx

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reply to ArrayList

Cellular carriers in the US get a leg up on each other mainly by offering cooler phones than the other provider. Or exclusive phones anyway. Otherwise T-Mobile would have to compete more fiercely on price than they do already.


hottboiinnc
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reply to Philmatic

those are standard pricings now with TMO.. where have you been?



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said by Mizzat:

Buying an unsubsidized phone is silly, the rates for the carriers are the same wether you buy it subsidized or not, so it is built into thier pricing. Now if they offered a discount for brining your own hardware, or price went down after your commitment....
It's not silly, because it is the 2 year commitment that is getting you the subsidy, not anything else.

If you plan to change your carrier without an ETF, it's not silly at all to not sign up for 2 years just to get a cheaper phone.

If you don't mind being tied to the same carrier for 2 years, then yes, it would be silly to outright buy a phone instead of having it subsidized.

But it's silly to call it "silly" when unsubsidized has a situation that is useful for some people.


Mizzat
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reply to RockyBB

Check eBay, plenty of people buying over the subsidized rates, could even send overseas.
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