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 hdmanFlt RiderPremium
join:2003-11-25
Appleton, WI
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| Here's a thought! Here's a thought AT&T on how to run your business:
1. Stop testing technologies you never plan to implement.
2. Stop spending MILLIONS lobbying states to pass laws that allow you to gain market share in highly populated areas while you ignore your rural customers.
3. Implement DSL technologies in rural areas where users a)need broadband, b)are willing to pay top dollar for it, and c)can't really dump their landlines for cell because of their rural locations.
Simply put, work on expanding services in areas where you only provide copper POTS service. You would have customers for DECADES....
Oh well, off my rant box....
HDMan
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|   HarddriveProud American and Infidel since 1968.Premium
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| Re: Here's a thought! in response to #3...
you expect AT&T or any other telecom provider to spend thousands of dollars putting in a remote, fiber fed DSLAM in the middle of Kansas for one farmhouse with no other houses for 20 miles?
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| | hdmanFlt RiderPremium
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Appleton, WI Reviews:
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| Re: Here's a thought! Of course not. But I would expect them to light up CO's in rural communites for DSL where they could pick several hundred homes.
You see, in Wisconsin, AT&T took away the small town's rights to negotiate services by lobbying the State to take over.
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| | | HarddriveProud American and Infidel since 1968.Premium
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| Re: Here's a thought! and that is what pisses me off. our corrupt politicians that vote a certain way because of PAC money. when they do this, i send them an actual snail-mail letter telling them why i voting against them, no matter who the other candidate is.
i'm tired of career Senators and Congressmen. i wish there were term limits. but those losers will never let it happen, much less put a bill in for it.
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|  FBGuyyippee ki yayPremium
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| said by Harddrive:in response to #3... you expect AT&T or any other telecom provider to spend thousands of dollars putting in a remote, fiber fed DSLAM in the middle of Kansas for one farmhouse with no other houses for 20 miles? thats not rural. thats out in the freakin sticks. lol
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Milwaukee, WI | said by Harddrive:in response to #3... you expect AT&T or any other telecom provider to spend thousands of dollars putting in a remote, fiber fed DSLAM in the middle of Kansas for one farmhouse with no other houses for 20 miles? Of course they do. It doesn't matter that it makes no sense financially for a company to do this. They want to live in the sticks but want all the convenience of living in the city. The fact is, 81% of the US population live in cities or suburbs of those cities. That's where any successful company is going to concentrate their business.
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kudos:1 | said by Harddrive:in response to #3... you expect AT&T or any other telecom provider to spend thousands of dollars putting in a remote, fiber fed DSLAM in the middle of Kansas for one farmhouse with no other houses for 20 miles? My sister and brother in law have 12 meg DSL service in a "town" of about 30 people, 10 miles from the closest city. Of course it is provided by a telephone coop, not a mega corporation looking to make their money back hundreds of times over. 
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00000 | said by Harddrive:in response to #3... you expect AT&T or any other telecom provider to spend thousands of dollars putting in a remote, fiber fed DSLAM ELECTRICITY in the middle of Kansas for one farmhouse with no other houses for 20 miles? fixed it for ya. | |
| | | elray
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Santa Monica, CA Reviews:
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·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Here's a thought! said by morbo:said by Harddrive:in response to #3... you expect AT&T or any other telecom provider to spend thousands of dollars putting in a remote, fiber fed DSLAM ELECTRICITY in the middle of Kansas for one farmhouse with no other houses for 20 miles? fixed it for ya. Sorry. There are plenty of places in the middle of the country where electricity is not available, and IF IT IS, you have to string your own power poles to bring it in at great expense.
Likewise for water and sewer connections.
And faster internet isn't analogous to a basic utility service.
If you want it, buck up and pay for it. | |
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00000 | Re: Here's a thought! High speed internet is approaching the same level as a basic utility service like electricity or phone service. It may take another 5 years to see it, but it's coming.
Electricity is available in rural areas because this country felt that it was important enough to provide incentives to providers to build out these un-profitable areas. Same thing for the postal service. It's not profitable to serve rural areas, but universal service was built into the system and pricing because this country agreed that it was important.
Yes, there are places that don't have water or sewer. Homeowners must dig a well or install a septic system. That's fairly common. Extending electric is expensive; however, unless you choose to build in an area that is completely undeveloped, electric is available. Build a house closer to a line to cut down on your out of pocket expenses. | |
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Palm Desert, CA | said by hdman:Here's a thought AT&T on how to run your business: 1. Stop testing technologies you never plan to implement. 2. Stop spending MILLIONS lobbying states to pass laws that allow you to gain market share in highly populated areas while you ignore your rural customers. 3. Implement DSL technologies in rural areas where users a)need broadband, b)are willing to pay top dollar for it, and c)can't really dump their landlines for cell because of their rural locations. HDMan Hey HDman, you are partly correct, I retired from PacBell when SBC/ATT came back. We had some Golden Years when we divested back in '86, but under the AT&T umbrella those BeanCounters came back to run things. Yes, AT&T likes to test everything and when they finally okay it, it's obsolete. With U-Verse, I told you guys a long time ago AT&T made the wrong decision. Save money and reuse existing Copper, and everyone thought that was the greatest idea. Well the existing Copper was old, and Copper prices kept going up. So that is probably why in some areas they placed VRAD's, but didn't connect anyone because new Copper was needed. Some of you say, well run Fiber, but the electronics is different.
So I think this is why they have stopped deployment of U-Verse. They need more bandwidth than the existing U-Verse, and Pair Bonding is limited because there is only so much good Copper pairs out there. So AT&T needs to change their whole Infrastructure to FTTH, but all the electronics have to change and that will require more money and more testing. It will be hard to turn that big AT&T Ship around! | |
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