 jig
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Hacienda Heights, CA | accidental? here's what i don't understand.
why aren't people more upset that this was "accidental"? who put the code on the cars? was it google? was it someone else?
if we're all in agreement that it WASN'T accidental (the alternative if scarier, frankly), then why do we keep hearing talk about privacy when google was clearly in violation of wiretapping laws? even without wep and wpa, payload packets aren't technically broadcast in the clear, they're directed to a single end point, and you need specialized software to get at the data if you aren't either end point.
on the privacy side - who cares? google has more granular and extensive data on more people than they could possibly have dredged through war sniffing. and they already use it for direct marketing. hello google search, and hello gmail.
so, forget about all the privacy stuff - it's small potatoes. what's really at issue here is who built the software, who "accidentally" turned it on, and who had access to the sniffed data and for how long?
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| I really don't see why people are going nutz about this. Who cares if google grabbed a snippit of your "unencrypted" traffic? Its not going to hold much value, considering most of your privacy important sites like banks etc. already encrypt your traffic in the browser.
If people were truly concerned about their privacy, they would have secured their connections long ago. I mean really, would you sign a written document and not read it first? Many idiots do... and then they proceed to cry wolf when something "unexpected" comes up :/ |
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said by jig:google was clearly in violation of wiretapping laws I call BS.
Back up your claim, or retract it.
Oh by the way, the freakin' EFF isn't even as far out as you are:
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Marcia Hofmann, a senior staff attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, said the fact that Google collected the data by accident would probably protect the company from liability under the federal wiretap law, which prohibits unauthorized access of communications.
"To violate the law requires that the interception was intentional," said Hofmann.
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jig
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Hacienda Heights, CA | if you read what i wrote, i'm assuming that it wasn't accidental, because 1) it was purposefully written, 2) it was installed on the street view mobiles, 3) it was enabled, and 4) it's much scarier that it may have been accidental.
if it's accidental, did they also accidentally upload it in the raw to someone who is less... open about using it?
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| said by jig:if you read what i wrote, i'm assuming that it wasn't accidental, because 1) it was purposefully written, 2) it was installed on the street view mobiles, 3) it was enabled, and 4) it's much scarier that it may have been accidental. "Intentional" is not the same as "not accidental", by a long shot.
if it's accidental, did they also accidentally upload it in the raw to someone who is less... open about using it?
Well, (a) that's awfully far-fetched, and (b) who cares? your conspiracy theory is amusing because the consequences of it being true aren't even bad. |
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jig
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Hacienda Heights, CA | 1) i don't think you realize how much sensitive information is passed unencrypted.
2) under the law, if you put everything in place for something bad to happen, and it happens, there's no difference between you purposefully setting it off at some particular time and it just magically getting set off somehow without your further influence. it's especially true when there's a rube goldberg machine type series of events that have to be coordinated, like here.
and, like i said, a truly accidental enabling of the module is fairly scary, because it's indicative of a lack of control. it's not far fetched to infer from one instance of lack of control that there have been others.
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