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Camaro305

join:2000-10-04
united state

Official Comcast blog about new SA guide

»blog.comcast.com/2010/05/new-gui···xes.html



meskinct
Mad Scientist at Work
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join:2002-01-07
Southbury, CT
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Yeah, I love how they say that customers love it when it hasn't even been rolled out to customers yet.

"Customers love the color — coded grid, which helps you quickly identify Sports (green), Kids (light blue) and Movies (purple), from general television programming (blue)..."
--
Rich. My Website



mikedz4

join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV
reply to Camaro305

I want my I want my I want my PASSPORT GUIDE...I want my I want my I want my passport guide...



cypherstream
Premium,MVM
join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
kudos:3

Eff that, and eff passport.

I want this.

»/r0/download/1···iful.jpg

Now THAT's a grid!


Camaro305

join:2000-10-04
united state

Beautiful!


jjv124

join:2009-11-21
Hanover, PA
reply to cypherstream

said by cypherstream:

Eff that, and eff passport.

I want this.

»/r0/download/1···iful.jpg

Now THAT's a grid!
HIT!.......wait that probably wasn't the right response. Oh well

schimmy

join:2010-02-18
Castle Rock, CO
reply to cypherstream

said by cypherstream:

Eff that, and eff passport.

I want this.

»/r0/download/1···iful.jpg

Now THAT's a grid!
So we'll see this in what? 5-7 years?


rv65
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join:2008-08-02
USA!!!!
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reply to Camaro305

That guide is codenamed "Barcelona". I think it's still running on simulators, but it might be running on a STB. It's a next gen tru2way guide that is even more advanced than "Aspen". Aspen is basically iGuide with spiffy graphics and it works on tru2way devices.



cypherstream
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join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
kudos:3

2 edits

said by rv65:

That guide is codenamed "Barcelona". I think it's still running on simulators, but it might be running on a STB. It's a next gen tru2way guide that is even more advanced than "Aspen". Aspen is basically iGuide with spiffy graphics and it works on tru2way devices.
It is now running on Motorola DCX set tops. Were closer to reality, and my guess is we may see some small instances of it starting in 2011... but don't quote me on it.

It's been in development for quite some time now. Rolling Tru2Way standards, rolling hardware specifications, Separable security mandate 7/7/2007, and other projects deemed more important (like plant cleanup, HD expansion, DOCSIS 3, Triple Play Push, etc...) all put it behind schedule.

This version will include VOD Search. Your search results can return hits from all sources... DVR material, Live material and VOD content. It also looks to have some sort of "user profile" system like Cox's Trio guide. It is supposed to be more 'modular' in design, so new features and updates will be easier and quicker to roll out.

Hardware requirements are yet to be determined. It's likely that you'll need a newer set top that has the memory and cpu specs to handle it.

Zizoo

join:2010-05-12
PA

2 edits

said by cypherstream:

said by rv65:

That guide is codenamed "Barcelona". I think it's still running on simulators, but it might be running on a STB. It's a next gen tru2way guide that is even more advanced than "Aspen". Aspen is basically iGuide with spiffy graphics and it works on tru2way devices.
It is now running on Motorola DCX set tops. Were closer to reality, and my guess is we may see some small instances of it starting in 2011... but don't quote me on it.

It's been in development for quite some time now. Rolling Tru2Way standards, rolling hardware specifications, Separable security mandate 7/7/2007, and other projects deemed more important (like plant cleanup, HD expansion, DOCSIS 3, Triple Play Push, etc...) all put it behind schedule.

This version will include VOD Search. Your search results can return hits from all sources... DVR material, Live material and VOD content. It also looks to have some sort of "user profile" system like Cox's Trio guide. It is supposed to be more 'modular' in design, so new features and updates will be easier and quicker to roll out.

Hardware requirements are yet to be determined. It's likely that you'll need a newer set top that has the memory and cpu specs to handle it.
Do you have the guide in the pictures above? I was not aware anyone had that guide yet. thats the tru2way guide right?

Edit: I quoted the wrong person.


cypherstream
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join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
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Click for full size
No, the pictures obtained are from tech demos at various cable & broadcasting trade shows.

However aspen looks like the photo I attached. It's basically an updated "skinned" I-Guide that is available for download into Tru2Way Panasonic TV's in the greater Chicago area.

Unfortunately, I was hoping for you SA/Cisco set top users, your new guide would look more like "Aspen" and not I-Guide. The SA set tops have dual RISC based processors and have been harnessed to do other features like transparencies, animations (element sliding in/out of view) and smooth UI fade transitions. I don't recall if SARA ever had polished transition effects, drop shadows and anti-aliasing, but Passport did and that ran on SA set tops.

I know Comcast wants a "Consistent User Experience", but Aspen is pretty close to I-Guide as to what buttons do what, and where menu elements are. It's just more visually updated with the modern 'skin'.

I bet Guide S25.2 for your platform won't take advantage of any of SA/Cisco's video acceleration features, and your menu's will simply 'pop' on screen (ie, no transparencies or animations). It's an upgrade from SARA, but a downgrade from Passport.

jjv124

join:2009-11-21
Hanover, PA

The downgrade from Passport is what kind of bugs me about this. Now if they can port over all of the a28 features into the s guide I'll be a bit happier. I also recognize that I'm one of the few users still using passport in the company and I guess I have to take the hit in this case to make others experience better but I am hoping that this is the first step and not the last step in this guide transition.


rody_44
Premium
join:2004-02-20
Quakertown, PA
reply to Camaro305

i like how many are on the grid. But that guide hurts my eyes. I dont like the blue at all.


Zizoo

join:2010-05-12
PA
reply to Camaro305

They just ported the moto guide by the looks of it.


jjv124

join:2009-11-21
Hanover, PA
reply to rody_44

said by rody_44:

i like how many are on the grid. But that guide hurts my eyes. I dont like the blue at all.
Color doesn't bother me.....being colorblind helps!


cypherstream
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join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
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reply to rody_44

Well it would be nice if you can change the font size (and subsequently it would change the grid size). Then if you could pick a color scheme (perhaps you want red grids instead of blue?)

But it's so preliminary that no one outside of Comcast's very secret guide dev team actually knows anything about it.

I'm curious how it will crop on a 4:3 TV using S-Video, Composite or RF connection.



cypherstream
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Reading, PA
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reply to Camaro305

Here is what it looked like in 2008 running on a simulation. The blue grid looks darker. Either that's the PC's different color pallet, the TV, the guide revision at the time, or the camera.









images C/O Endgadget »hd.engadget.com/2008/01/10/hands···ast-dvr/



cypherstream
Premium,MVM
join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
kudos:3
reply to Camaro305

Article now up on Engadget HD!
»hd.engadget.com/2010/05/19/comca···-iguide/

Attached is this funny blurb between BenD at Endgaget and Jeremy Hammer from Ceton.

LeftyJR

join:2008-02-19
Avis, PA

At least they are confirming EBIF features ARE available on this platform...


Camaro305

join:2000-10-04
united state
reply to Camaro305

Another article regarding S25: »www.multichannel.com/article/452···oxes.php


tacitus

join:2005-08-23
Ellicott City, MD
reply to Camaro305

I didn't see where the new guide filters out the channels you don't get. Or at least color code it. Also, warning us now when its 80% full instead of 95% full is rather annoying.



cypherstream
Premium,MVM
join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
kudos:3
reply to Camaro305

Notice in that article..

"And on a separate track, Comcast is continuing to develop and test "Buckeye," the code name for its IPG optimized for 16-by-9 high-definition TVs. That guide, expected to enter trials in late 2010 with deployments next year, is supposed to include advanced search and discovery capabilities across TV listings, VOD and DVR recordings, among other enhancements."

Buckeye? I thought it was called J-Guide, or Barcelona. Buckeye, like »www.buckeyecablesystem.com/index.html the Cable company with the logo that mysteriously resembles Time Warner?



markofmayhem
Why not now?
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join:2004-04-08
Pittsburgh, PA
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Typo?

Barcelona is out now, in trials/labs/expos only. It is supposed to replace Aspen later this year with larger footprint deployments next year... what is "Buckeye"?


hussle87
Premium
join:2008-01-06
Sykesville, MD

1 edit
reply to cypherstream

what is comcast's plant clean up project?


MorphiusFayd

join:2006-07-19
Lubbock, TX
reply to meskinct

They say customers love it because it's the same Guide that's been in use in Motorola areas for years. Just now it's been ported to the Cisco/SA equipment.



pjsbar

@comcast.net
reply to Camaro305

Will "Comcast Central" channels be added and will they work with a cable card?



Mike Wolf

join:2009-05-24
Beachwood, NJ
kudos:4
reply to Camaro305

when the heck am i going to see this, and is this going to be pushed through on the legacy SA devices like the SA8300



Mike Wolf

join:2009-05-24
Beachwood, NJ
kudos:4
reply to Camaro305

what bothers me is when Comcast goes around and touts their TiVo software on their Motorola boxes, but forget that a majority of their customers have Scientific Atlanta boxes. In their advertisements and "how to videos" they always use Motorola on screen guides, never SA, making the videos useless.



Mike Wolf

join:2009-05-24
Beachwood, NJ
kudos:4
reply to Zizoo

See to be blunt, I mainly use my MOXI, which has a really good user interface and on screen guide, as well as the grid style. »moxi.com/us/hd_interfaces.html I get all the features, with the exception of on demand, but thats a limitation of the cablecard technology, not the device.


LeftyJR

join:2008-02-19
Avis, PA

The rumblings that I've heard state that mid-late June is when we'll have our S.25 put in place.