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jeffro

join:2007-04-20
Bay City, MI

reply to Lazlow

Re: Distance?

Where I am I can get either AT&T DSL or Charter's HSI. It's not even a close comparison. Fastest from AT&T is 6/768. Charter is 25/3 for now until DOCSIS 3 hits my area and then 60/5 becomes available hopefully. AT&T's mindset will be their downfall. Keep up or get the hell out of the way.

Lazlow

join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO

Which is why I specifically mention "for getting service out to those who cannot get internet". People keep forgetting that there are tons of areas that cannot get any land line internet(above dial up speeds) and many cannot get cell based service either. That pretty much leaves satellite internet, which is fine for email but even heavy web browsing can bring it to its knees.


xenophon

join:2007-09-17

reply to jeffro

said by jeffro:

Where I am I can get either AT&T DSL or Charter's HSI. It's not even a close comparison. Fastest from AT&T is 6/768. Charter is 25/3 for now until DOCSIS 3 hits my area and then 60/5 becomes available hopefully. AT&T's mindset will be their downfall. Keep up or get the hell out of the way.
What are you going to use the 25Mbps for? Most consumers don't need it. Streaming video only needs about 4Mbps for near HD (like Netflix).

I'd like to step down from 7Mbps to 4Mbps if it would cost less.

ATT will do fine, but won't be able to service power users, which is a small part of the general population. Why spend billions when only a few % need that much bandwidth? The do need to beef up the infrastructure to sustain 10Mbps to end users but most user themselves don't need more than 10. Copper has some life left for the last mile.


librarian

@lib.tx.us

said by xenophon:

said by jeffro:

Where I am I can get either AT&T DSL or Charter's HSI. It's not even a close comparison. Fastest from AT&T is 6/768. Charter is 25/3 for now until DOCSIS 3 hits my area and then 60/5 becomes available hopefully. AT&T's mindset will be their downfall. Keep up or get the hell out of the way.
What are you going to use the 25Mbps for? Most consumers don't need it. Streaming video only needs about 4Mbps for near HD (like Netflix).

I'd like to step down from 7Mbps to 4Mbps if it would cost less.

ATT will do fine, but won't be able to service power users, which is a small part of the general population. Why spend billions when only a few % need that much bandwidth? The do need to beef up the infrastructure to sustain 10Mbps to end users but most user themselves don't need more than 10. Copper has some life left for the last mile.
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runzero

join:2005-09-16
DC

reply to xenophon
640K ought to be enough for anybody. Bitstarved 4Mbps "HD" (ahem, U-verse) is also good enough. Right?


WhatNow
Premium
join:2009-05-06
Charlotte, NC

reply to Lazlow
It would be nice if they could get everybody with electricity to the house to get a minimum of at least 6 to 10Mbps reliable internet at the same time they go for the super speeds.



Jan Janowski

join:2000-06-18
Skokie, IL
Reviews:
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reply to xenophon
When I go to my Cousin's house with UVerse... I laugh inwardly that they will "Put Up" with dropped frames....
I go nuts watching UVerse on their bigscreen... Every few seconds it drops a frame.....
I finally went home, and brought over a BluRay I made, encoded at 40Mb/sec, and it played flawlessly.... So that rules out the display.......

Yeah... you don't need extra bandwidth... Yeah....

Bull!
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Looking for 1939 Indian Motocycle



jeffro

join:2007-04-20
Bay City, MI

reply to xenophon
I'm not most customers and I think I do need it. If you want to step down because that will meet your needs great. For me I want more speed. Keep drinking that AT&T kool-aid.


xenophon

join:2007-09-17

I'm not an ATT customer and never was. Just saying 90% of consumers don't need over 10Mbps, only power users do, which you fall in to.



Jan Janowski

join:2000-06-18
Skokie, IL

Jeffro, don't you just LOVE Being put in a group: "That's All You Need" Without Your Permission?????

I have to agree.... You MUST be drinking the ATT Kool-Aid!!!
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Looking for 1939 Indian Motocycle


sqinky
Premium
join:2001-01-24
Fernley, NV
Reviews:
·AT&T DSL Service

reply to jeffro
I'm in the same boat, but made a different decision. I dealt with Charter here (in the Reno,NV area) a number of years ago (for a few years) and I would rather have my testicles pounded flat with a wooden hammer than ever have to 1) deal with that company again and/or 2) send them another penny.
Their customer service was non-existent & their tech support was as attrocaus as my spilling, neither of which would have been too bad if their actual tv service & internet service would have been even remotely stable which it was not (so I had to deal with the other 2 types of service).
For you Charter fans out there, I fully admit that it's been a number of years since my bad experience with them. But I'm still not going to put myself through that again. I still hear horror stories from friends of mine who have Charter (so I take it as a given they have not fixed themselves).
Say what you will about AT&T, but my internet (and my landline) have been bulletproof for as long as they have been installed here (8 years for POTS & 5 or so years for internet). I'd like a bit more speed (ok I'll take as much speed as they will sell me), but I normally get a mid to high 4meg result on speed tests (not great, but better than cutting Charter a check) and I can't remember a single outage of internet since signing up with AT&T for internet.


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