 baineschile2600 ways to livePremium
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1 edit | Pbbt As long as google has advertising rights along the stream, they will push for "open" anything.
Yay! I want to look at a 15 second advertisement whenever i open up mozilla! Yay! I want to listen to a 30 second had before I can make a call from my cell phone. Yay! I want to look at a commercial BEFORE i can turn my TV on!
Good in theory, but Google exists in a capitalistic economy...they are out for the dollar. Trading money for my free time isnt worth it, at least to me. |
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00000 | Google payed 125 million to buy the company and release the codec to the public. A simple "thank you" is in order. |
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said by baineschile:As long as google has advertising rights along the stream, they will push for "open" anything. Yay! I want to look at a 15 second advertisement whenever i open up mozilla! Yay! I want to listen to a 30 second had before I can make a call from my cell phone. Yay! I want to look at a commercial BEFORE i can turn my TV on! Good in theory, but Google exists in a capitalistic economy...they are out for the dollar. Trading money for my free time isnt worth it, at least to me. i'm with ya on this one. if google didnt jump on this early something else would have came along. google isnt out to give away things. people need to stop sac riding them |
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said by baineschile:Yay! I want to look at a 15 second advertisement whenever i open up mozilla! Yay! I want to listen to a 30 second had before I can make a call from my cell phone. Yay! I want to look at a commercial BEFORE i can turn my TV on! Rant much? How many times have you seen an ad just for opening Chrome or Firefox? That is NOT going to change.
Wait, wait, wait.... let me restate that last sentence:
That is NOT going to change!
Loud enough for ya?
Sure they will have rights to putting all the ads they want on YouTube, but stop buttering up something that will not be an apocalypse!
said by baineschile:Good in theory, but Google exists in a capitalistic economy...they are out for the dollar. Trading money for my free time isnt worth it, at least to me. But it is in their interests, stop thinking so 1 dimensionally... and so negatively!
It is good in theory because with competing standards it will push for more innovation. But mostly it will provide a video codec that all browsers can support (in addition to some supporting H.264). But as long as all browsers support VP8 Google is free to rack up all the advertising revenue they want because they know it will work in ALL, not SOME, browsers.
You think their ad revenue on YouTube would continue to gain if Firefox, the second most used browser out there, suddenly could not play YouTube videos?
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iansltx
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Just like they bought Picasa (now free, though you pay for Picasa Web Albums if you want to store a lot on there), Keyhole (now Google Earth; premium versions are available but most folks get it for free) and other companies that I've now forgotten about... |
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said by morbo:Google payed 125 million to buy the company and release the codec to the public. A simple "thank you" is in order. Yep. I'm still waiting for them to thank me.
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What am I supposed to be thanking them for? |
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said by iansltx:Just like they bought Picasa (now free, though you pay for Picasa Web Albums if you want to store a lot on there), Keyhole (now Google Earth; premium versions are available but most folks get it for free) and other companies that I've now forgotten about... They also provide a ton of other apps for free as well.
I've just got one question: Why don't you do your job for free?
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said by BillRoland:What am I supposed to be thanking them for? I'm with you on this too.. I don't get it. |
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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They provide it for free to us, but they make money from advertising and our hits, so they make money and we're happy.
It works for me.
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KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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You can use the codec royalty free now. So if you find that useful, you should thank them.
I like the idea of a high quality open source and free and more importantly --- standard --- (ie, widely adopted) video codec.
There's been quality free codecs. That hardly anybody uses! This coalition aims to fix that.
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iansltx
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I do. It's called college field session 
Google gets plenty of money, through advertising and now various for-pay cloud services. |
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said by iansltx:Just like they bought Picasa (now free, though you pay for Picasa Web Albums if you want to store a lot on there), Keyhole (now Google Earth; premium versions are available but most folks get it for free) and other companies that I've now forgotten about... Keyhole originally had pay versions to start with.
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iansltx
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| That was my point; only limited versions of Keyhold (some bundled with nVidia gfx cards as a promo) were free. For-pay service was the norm. Google changed that, though personally I liked the Keyhold black motif rather than the light Google Earth one. |
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Actually, that is what Google wants to do. Google wants to have a single codec and format that they can use for all of their media without having to pay any royalties, and to do that they need to make it open since they know no one else would accept it otherwise.
Currently the HTML5 codec that is getting pushed by Apple and Microsoft has a very questionable licensing agreement that allows royalties to start being charged in 2015 and may not even technically allow for commercial video distribution as it is currently written.
Google wants to sink this before it becomes a real standard and replace it with an open codec to avoid having to fight a war in five years. Plus if this standard gets put into place Google would be well positioned as a market leader which they could use to help push development tools while integrating everything to YouTube and Google's Video Search technologies. So yes, they do want to give it away, but expect them to make a profit by doing so in the long run from other technologies and internal cost savings. |
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said by Rob:said by morbo:Google payed 125 million to buy the company and release the codec to the public. A simple "thank you" is in order. Yep. I'm still waiting for them to thank me. +1
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morboComplete Your Transaction
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Read up on it if you are interested. The goal of this 100million gift to the world is to fix a looming problem with internet video and royalty payments. What is expected to happen in 2015 is a change that would hold producers and distribution channels hostage. |
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