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iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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reply to amungus

Re: couple things

FWIW, I'm guessing that you're actually talking about VP6, not VP8, as "were pretty good." Also FWIW, VP6 is the default codec for older versions of Flash, though now it's transitioning to H.264 (and now VP8).

As far as Flash goes, the player integrates codes...that's not *all* it does but codecs in Flash mean that if your browser is compatible with Flash then it's compatible with those video formats within Flash. Also FP 10.1 isn't all that bad...I have integrated graphics on my MacBook and it'll play HD with FP 10.1.

But if you've got a web browser that can do HTML5 video straight up with VP8 (Chrome, FF, Opera) then that's what will get used. VP8 is a full-on codec and NOT tied to Flash by any stretch!

Another FWIW: there are rumblings that Microsoft is in with the WebM bunch as well...I mean, why not? WMV really has never caught on.

As for Apple, they might be idiots and insist on supporting H.264, and H.264 only, on their iPhone/iPad platforms, out of spite against Google. I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Safari (desktop and mobile editions) took six to twelve months to get VP8 support, even though FF and Chrome will have it by the end of the month in release builds, and already have it in nightlies today. Heck, Opera wil have VP8 in short order, even!

Betcha Apple will hold off until IE gets VP8 (a year from now), then whine about how Google's open standard is either

a) Not open
b) Substandard

and as such they shouldn't be required by the masses to support it. Though Flash in desktop Safari will gladly do the whole VP8 thing if that happens...it's just that iPad/iPhone users will be SOL unless they jailbreak and add the inevitable codec.


Unother

join:2005-03-23
West Hartford, CT
Reviews:
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People are forgetting that this move on Google's part may be strategic.

Apple has already standardized on H.264. Their entire push is in that direction.

If we agree that the "future is mobile", one can see why with a competing platform to the iPhone (Android), Google may be willing to tweak Apple and its attempt to standardize otherwise.

As a plus, they get to look like an "open standards hero"--while being nothing of the sort...
--
I'm Kreig Zimmerman. Any questions?


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2

Meh, pretty sure that spending a hundred million on buying a company, then open-sourcing the tech that they bought, is not bad for OSS.



Unother

join:2005-03-23
West Hartford, CT

Q.E.D.


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