1 edit | Awesome! Goodbye, AT&T. I'm sure other wireless companies are soon to follow!
Seems like we're paying MORE for even less now.
From AT&T's press article (link above in the article):
Tethering. Smartphone customers – including iPhone customers – who choose the DataPro plan have the option to add tethering for an additional $20 per month. Tethering lets customers use their smartphones as a modem to provide a broadband connection for laptop computers, netbooks or other computing devices. Tethering for iPhones will be available when Apple releases iPhone OS 4 this summer.
Seems to me like OS 3 didn't support Tethering, and it's all of Apple's fault now...Haha. |
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| said by Shrapnel64:Seems to me like OS 3 didn't support Tethering, and it's all of Apple's fault now...Haha. OS 3 does support tethering since tethering works in other countries on the iPhone. My guess is that AT&T wanted more control over tethering or something and had Apple add something to it in OS 4. If not, then I have no idea why AT&T is requiring OS 4.
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 Count ZeroObama-Biden 2012Premium
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Winston Salem, NC | reply to Shrapnel64
Other countries had tethering with iPhone OS 3. AT&T just didn't enable it. There were even hacks to enable tethering on AT&T in the US using Apple's built-in tethering system. |
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You are definitely paying MORE for less. "Unlimited" was always BS. Their TOS defines anything over 5GB as "excessive use" subject to whatever penalties they want.
So essentially you'll pay $25+$10+$10+$10= $55 for the same 5 GB that costs your $30 now. |
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| said by Michael C:You are definitely paying MORE for less. "Unlimited" was always BS. Their TOS defines anything over 5GB as "excessive use" subject to whatever penalties they want. Smartphones were ALWAYS UNLIMITED. |
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said by Michael C:You are definitely paying MORE for less. "Unlimited" was always BS. Their TOS defines anything over 5GB as "excessive use" subject to whatever penalties they want. This is simply untrue. Smartphone data plans were always unlimited. It was tethered plans or data card plans that had the 5GB limit. Also AT&T is now very clear about not calling a plan "unlimited" if it has a 5GB limit and has been for a while. |
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 LocoObviously InsanePremium
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2GB's should be good enough for us. |
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cahiattPremium
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Smyrna, GA | reply to MyDogHsFleas
So does the $5 plan cost reduction also include a $7 "3g data tracking fee" so your actual net cost is more? You know ATT isn't going to give you something for nothing. Sure there is a fee on there but the advertised price is lower. That's what counts!!!!! |
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| said by cahiatt:So does the $5 plan cost reduction also include a $7 "3g data tracking fee" so your actual net cost is more? You know ATT isn't going to give you something for nothing. Sure there is a fee on there but the advertised price is lower. That's what counts!!!!! ummm... what the hell are you talking about? What "data tracking fee" ??? |
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said by Michael C:You are definitely paying MORE for less. "Unlimited" was always BS. Their TOS defines anything over 5GB as "excessive use" subject to whatever penalties they want. So essentially you'll pay $25+$10+$10+$10= $55 for the same 5 GB that costs your $30 now. AT&T advertised the smartphone service as unlimited. Nothing in the TOS will change that. That is like going to a buffet, and after the second plate they want you to pay again. "All you can eat" is "All you can eat"; there is no "we decide how much you can eat". Otherwise the terms MUST BE clearly put somewhere. I went to a sushi buffet and at the top of the ordering card it CLEARLY STATES IN PLAIN ENGLISH "whatever you don't eat you buy". Just because you bury leaglise in a TOS doesn't actually mean it can be upheld in court.
Even Apple proved that TOS are just wash when they released their iTunes for Windows with the TOS saying that Apple software can't be installed on a PC. Oops. They have since "corrected" the TOS, but still TOS are really just a way for the company to scare the customer into bending to their will. Unless you go insane on their network (bittorrent 24/7), most likely the carrier will just cut your service. Or attempt to charge you an amount you don't have or could possibly pay out.
Think about how much it would cost to drag you to court which then they would have to prove you actually violated the unlimited data plan...err I mean TOS...err I mean...you see where it falls apart quickly? |
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you must live in the past! |
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LocoObviously InsanePremium
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you must live in the past!
I don't spend my life on my iPhone..:+) |
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said by Loco:2GB's should be good enough for us. +1 |
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 gballMaster YodaPremium
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said by Loco:2GB's should be good enough for us. Who is 'us' exactly? or are you just speaking for everyone? |
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said by MyDogHsFleas:said by cahiatt:So does the $5 plan cost reduction also include a $7 "3g data tracking fee" so your actual net cost is more? You know ATT isn't going to give you something for nothing. Sure there is a fee on there but the advertised price is lower. That's what counts!!!!! ummm... what the hell are you talking about? What "data tracking fee" ??? That's the new fee they'll come up with as a convenience charge for tracking your data usage and to make up for dropping the data plan price by $5. |
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| said by cahiatt:said by MyDogHsFleas:said by cahiatt:So does the $5 plan cost reduction also include a $7 "3g data tracking fee" so your actual net cost is more? You know ATT isn't going to give you something for nothing. Sure there is a fee on there but the advertised price is lower. That's what counts!!!!! ummm... what the hell are you talking about? What "data tracking fee" ??? That's the new fee they'll come up with as a convenience charge for tracking your data usage and to make up for dropping the data plan price by $5. Oh I see you're not being serious. My mistake for assuming this was a real discussion. |
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said by gball:said by Loco:2GB's should be good enough for us. Who is 'us' exactly? or are you just speaking for everyone? _Us_, as the 5 in my family.
2GB is plenty for each of our iPhones..:+) |
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said by Morac:OS 3 does support tethering since tethering works in other countries on the iPhone. My guess is that AT&T wanted more control over tethering or something and had Apple add something to it in OS 4. If not, then I have no idea why AT&T is requiring OS 4. I think they reworked how tethering gets turned on on OS 4.
I messed around with Beta 4 of OS 4 for a few days before reverting back to 3.1.3 for the time being, and when you try to turn Tethering on under it, it looks like it tries to contact the carrier and verify something. After a minute or so it tells you that you need to call AT&T or log into your account online to enable Tethering. Not sure if it will stay that way for the final version of OS 4, but my guess would be that it will.
AFAIK, in OS 3 all you needed was a file with carrier settings, once applied you had to reboot the phone and your Tethering was turned on. In 3.1.3 they started requiring that the file be digitally signed, effectively killing your capability to generate the file yourself and send it to the iPhone. You could have still gone the jailbreaking route and gotten it to work though.
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rradina
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Chesterfield, MO | reply to MyDogHsFleas
Actually it can be a real discussion. AT&T provides an iPhone app that provides monthly talk usage, text message count and data bytes. Today it's a free app and there's no charge to login to your wireless on-line account with the app and retrieve your current usage. The article also said they would send you a text message when you get close to your cap.
Here's what I don't understand -- the article on MSNBC said they expect this to have no effect on revenue. How can that be? 98% of their customers will see AT LEAST a $5 decrease on their monthly bill. Those that go over will be charged $10/GB extra. This means they expect those that go over to make up for everyone else paying $5/month less? There must be some ridiculous data hogs on AT&T's network.
Furthermore, are we to believe that 2% of the smart phone customers are causing all the congestion? 98% won't hit the cap and won't watch their usage any closer than they do today. How does this help congestion in big cities?
This is hogwash and it sounds like clowns are running the show at AT&T. Of course that's no different than the rest of the clowns that run corporate America. Anyone who thinks a typical CEO is any smarter than Fred down the street is mistaken. Usually they have one really good skill ... they have a great poker face because ethics are optional.
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