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Onion, NJ | reply to DavePR
Re: Is listening illegal? Not unless the law says so... said by DavePR:TV stations, Radio Stations, NDBs and NOAA Weather Radio broadcast. I do not. ECPA was intended to make low cost personal communications more secure by banning unconcerned parties from eavesdropping. Is Google not eavesdropping? Dave:
you can spin this any way you want, Google did not break this law. ECPA of 1986 only banned eavesdropping on encrypted and "real" cell phone (800mhz) communications.
As a US citizen resident, the ECPA of 1986 authorizes you to monitor anything that goes over the public airwaves.
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Canyon Country, CA | They are intercepting private communications, and saving the data for commercial gain. This is not allowed. A case can be made that they have stepped over the line. |
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kudos:2 | said by DavePR:They are intercepting private communications, and saving the data for commercial gain. This is not allowed. A case can be made that they have stepped over the line. Where is the expectation of privacy? As long as no one has physically trespassed onto private property, no eavesdropping has taken place. If you do not wish for your wireless network to be heard in places not in your control, you need to design your system not to allow your signals to go beyond the areas that are in your physical control.
And how does "commercial gain" come into play? Are you suggesting that it isn't illegal if it is not profitable?
Our discussion isn't about "stepping over the line", or the ethics of Google's actions. We have been discussing the legality of their actions. Seems as your arguments have been confused about this.
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| "..commercial..gain..." is a factor in the statute to be considered when determining criminality.
The Chocolate Factory stepped over my property line, got unique identification data from my equipment, then used it to make money.
Their only defense is that I was "broadcasting" to the "general public"? How many of them can I get in front of my house? How "off the shelf" is the hardware and application to glean this data? |
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kudos:2 | said by Vernon73pl :
The Chocolate Factory stepped over my property line, got unique identification data from my equipment, then used it to make money.
If they stepped onto your property, they were eavesdropping.
Google was out in the street (a "public way"). Big difference.
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