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<description><![CDATA[darcilicious posted : Heh. Back in the day, we used an external Sound Blaster Audigy box for optical sound, etc. It was actually a real PITA but back then, hardware was king and you gave it the space it deserved. Or something ;)<br><br>Well, I'm off to work where my primary computer is a LAPTOP heaven forbid (but you know, mobility is cool and all that, and it's even useful for training and presentations out on the road) and to play with various Linux servers and Python and fun stuff like that.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[La Luna posted : I can't figure out why one would even need an "X-Fi Extreme" sound card when when doesn't do anything that would require it on the computer. No movies, no TV, probably no games or music, no nothing. On board sound would be more than enough.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[darcilicious posted : As someone with a graduate degree, you don't ever have to worry about my brain, it rocks :) And not all TV is brain-rot-inducing either -- we watch stuff like the PBS series on National Parks in 1080p and 5.1 sound -- ooooh, soooo bad for my brain!<br><br>P.S. if I needed the capabilities of an X-Fi Extreme sound card, I guess I would have one, which is really the point I was trying to make but I guess your head is too full of books and letters to have grasped that ;)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mele20 posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/413587" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=413587');">nirvansk815</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/403861" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=403861');">Mele20</a>:</small><br><br>I finally figured out that was Proxo.<br> </div>Just an honest observation... It seems like Proxo is the root of many of the problems you seem to have with Microsoft software.<br> </div>Well, of course! Proxo frees me. :)<br><small>--<br>When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.  Thomas Jefferson</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mele20 posted : With your "builtin" sound how can you do all the great things that I can  do with my X-Fi Extreme card? <br><br>You want to duplicate your TV it sounds like. I don't have a TV, I don't watch movies, I have a computer to stimulate my mind. A TV kills your mind and soul and the more you try to turn a computer into a media entertainment "center" the same can be said about that computer. READ, READ, READ for nourishment of your brain and soul...stay completely away from brain rotting movies and other junk.<br><br>I can see from your posts that the rotting is rather advanced...watch out or you will have Alzeheimer's in no time. ;)<br><small>--<br>When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.  Thomas Jefferson</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[La Luna posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/260087" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=260087');">cmcasey79</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/429050" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=429050');">La Luna</a>:</small><br><br>As far building a machine goes....what's wrong with having someone else build it? Still cheaper than buying a comparable machine off the shelf.<br> </div>Depends if you're going to have a friend build it for free (or for a six pack or something), or actually pay a shop to build it.  I used to build some PCs for friends for free, but I've really stopped doing that lately...  <br><br> </div>There's lots of people out there who can build  machines for a resonable price, it doesn't have to be a shop. I'd rather do that when buying a new desktop than pay some company a ridiculous amount of money for a pre built machine. Plus, you get exactly the parts you want; however, the builder should have input on nixing, as you say, crap components. They should have some standards to avoid people complaining in the future.<br><br>I had someone from right here on DSLR build me my last desktop, running XP Pro. I got a really great machine that can be upgraded to Windows 7 with very little trouble. I've just been too lazy to do it yet. I have the Windows 7 disk sitting in a drawer.  :hmm:<br><br>Laptops, different story. I bought my two laptops in stores. Very happy with both. I just gave my son the older one running XP Home to use and he's perfectly fine with it for his needs.<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/25wwvn7">The Alien in the White House</a></b><br><br><A HREF="http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/">15,448 DEADLY TERROR ATTACKS SINCE 9/11</a></b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[cmcasey79 posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/878241" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=878241');">JohnInSJ</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/260087" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=260087');">cmcasey79</a>:</small><br><br>You can continue to run whatever you like, but you can't expect to  get great support when things you have are 3 (or more) generations old. </div>THIS is exactly what I meant. Nothing to do with your proxy issue and the microsoft web support system. 100% to do with you running essentially VERY old software on FAIRLY old hardware, and Microsoft based to boot. MS is 100% about pushing people off the 10 year old code, because their 10 year old code (XP, Word 2002, IE 6) is suffering from code rot (&raquo;<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_rot" >en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_rot</A>).<br> </div>Not only is it old(er) Microsoft software, but it's probably 20-30 other programs that are doing who knows what with the system.  I would really like to see accurate numbers of how many "windows problems" or "microsoft problems" are really their problems, or problems with other software on the system.  In this case, it appears 3rd party software (Proxo) was causing the issue about posting in the forums.  <br><br>I know Mele20 is very sensitive to security (I've read some of her posts in the last year or two), but in my experience, security software is the WORST offender when it comes to causing computer crashes, or general weirdness.  It's easy to blame microsoft if things crash or don't work as we expect, but it's not always their fault (unless they are supposed to take the blame for every piece of software written for windows).  The internet (and to some extent, the windows operating system itself) expects certain responses, and when the responses aren't what was expected (to protect your privacy, or security, etc...), you can get weird problems.  I do run way less security software now that I used to, just because it was causing so many weird issues in the past. <br><br>I have settled upon a router, the built in win7 software firewall, and microsoft security essentials antivirus.  Those, combined with good browsing and email reading habits, have been doing a good job for the last year or so.  I know they aren't foolproof by any means, but I've decided that having a computer that doesn't crash is better than having a computer secured like fort knox, but giving random errors and crashing all day.<br><small>--<br>- cmcasey79, BrightHouse Michigan RoadRunner Turbo(15000/1500), Farmington Hills, MI</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[JohnInSJ posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/260087" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=260087');">cmcasey79</a>:</small><br><br>You can continue to run whatever you like, but you can't expect to  get great support when things you have are 3 (or more) generations old. </div>THIS is exactly what I meant. Nothing to do with your proxy issue and the microsoft web support system. 100% to do with you running essentially VERY old software on FAIRLY old hardware, and Microsoft based to boot. MS is 100% about pushing people off the 10 year old code, because their 10 year old code (XP, Word 2002, IE 6) is suffering from code rot (&raquo;<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_rot" >en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_rot</A>).<br><small>--<br>My place : &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.schettino.us" >www.schettino.us</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[cmcasey79 posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/429050" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=429050');">La Luna</a>:</small><br><br>As far building a machine goes....what's wrong with having someone else build it? Still cheaper than buying a comparable machine off the shelf.<br> </div>Depends if you're going to have a friend build it for free (or for a six pack or something), or actually pay a shop to build it.  I used to build some PCs for friends for free, but I've really stopped doing that lately...  <br><br>One of the biggest reasons I stopped is that my friends were buying cheap crap components, and then blaming me later on when things didn't work right, or were slow, etc...  If they looked at the list of things I recommended, they'd say they could just go buy a computer cheaper than that at Best Buy.  While that is definitely true, I know the PC I would build for $1000 would be a ton better than the tower you'd get from Best Buy for the same price...  Better power supply, better motherboard, better video or sound card (if it was needed). <br><br>I would find it very hard these days to build a $3000 PC though.  Anything that expensive is just ridiculous and over the top.  If you got the top-of-the-line Intel processor, you do pay around $1000 just for that.  But you can go down a couple steps, maybe sacrifice 10% processor performance, but save about 70% of the cost.  It is never economical to buy the top end of anything, you always pay a premium price for a small performance gain.<br><br>Having said all of that, I don't know why Mele20 can't post to the social groups site.  I've never had any problems with it, and obviously, tons of other people are posting there just fine.  Newsgroups went away simply because most users today don't even know about them, and find getting help through a web browser to be much easier.  <br><br>Mele20, unfortunately, you do have to admit the platform you are running on is getting a bit aged right now.  Sure you got word 2002 as part of works suite 2006, but even at that time, you should have known you were getting an older version of software (which is why you saved a lot of money compared to buying office).  I know a lot of people don't like change, but with computers, you don't have much choice.  You can continue to run whatever you like, but you can't expect to  get great support when things you have are 3 (or more) generations old.<br><small>--<br>- cmcasey79, BrightHouse Michigan RoadRunner Turbo(15000/1500), Farmington Hills, MI</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[nirvansk815 posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/403861" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=403861');">Mele20</a>:</small><br><br>I finally figured out that was Proxo.<br> </div>Just an honest observation... It seems like Proxo is the root of many of the problems you seem to have with Microsoft software.<br><small>--<br>There's so much to be thankful for...How can anyone be sad?</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[La Luna posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/156437" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=156437');">dave</a>:</small><br><br>Once again, I thank you for referring to me as an 'ignorant computer user'.<br> </div>That phrase gets thrown around a lot. Ironic, isn't it?<br><br>As far building a machine goes....what's wrong with having someone else build it? Still cheaper than buying a comparable machine off the shelf.<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/25wwvn7">The Alien in the White House</a></b><br><br><A HREF="http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/">15,448 DEADLY TERROR ATTACKS SINCE 9/11</a></b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[darcilicious posted : Yeah, my built-in 5.1 sound is utter crap. And yeah, I'm forced to replace my computers every hrmmm.. five years I guess but only because I have higher and higher demands on them (no, they don't just run Microsoft Office all, oh, wait, they don't run Microsoft Office at all). Oh, it's blasphemous in your world, I know, but I refuse to use anything LESS than a widescreen monitor. And oh, my new 1080p TouchSmart computer would probably send you screaming for the hills since it's so entertainment oriented it surely can't be used for anything USEFUL like telecommuting, maintaining a widely used open source software project for public libraries around the U.S. etc.<br><br>The fact that you are so unwilling to see beyond your own personal focus of what is a "good" computer is truly astounding! Keep up the good work ;)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dave posted : Once again, I thank you for referring to me as an 'ignorant computer user'.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mele20 posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/878241" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=878241');">JohnInSJ</a>:</small><br><br>I<br><br>Anyway, didn't want to take this off topic too far. On topic, you're likely to continue to see these kinds of difficulties and incompatibilities going forward.<br> </div>So, the error I got trying to post at Microsoft forums using <b>Vista Ultimate</b> is also because Microsoft has formally declared war on that OS? It is too old also and I should expect to " continue to see these kinds of difficulties and incompatibilities going forward."<br><br>Really? Geez....you are talking out of the top of your hat. Better stop now. <br><br>As for building a machine for a small amount ...great, but I don't want to learn to build a machine. Besides, another problem now is the lack of outstanding sound cards. A great sound card is essential to me, whereas, I don't care about a lot of other stuff like DVD burner. I have the original and best X-Fi extreme card but I gather all the Creative cards are poor now on Win 7 and the trend is toward built in audio only which is utter crap. I guess next will be the demise of fine video cards also...just crap machines that are cheap and have to be replaced every year or so ...never repaired as it would be cheaper to replace and that, of course, is just what the average ignorant computer user needs ...but not the rest of us. <br><small>--<br>When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.  Thomas Jefferson</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[JohnInSJ posted : I get it, I just don't get why you stick with something you clearly despise.<br><br>I use Linux personally, so I'm always current at no cost. I use Windows and Macos because I have to use them for work. <br><br>The last PC I "bought" was built from parts - $800 gets a core i7, 8gb ram, and 2TB disk, Dual layer dvd burner, along with a decent nvidia card - that was 9 months ago, the parts today might be $50 less.<br><br>Anyway, didn't want to take this off topic too far. On topic, you're likely to continue to see these kinds of difficulties and incompatibilities going forward.<br><small>--<br>My place : &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.schettino.us" >www.schettino.us</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dave posted : Nah, we just don't understand the concept of paying $3000 for a home computer in the first place  :-)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mele20 posted : No, you don't get it. You want to play the spend money constantly game and have plenty of funds to buy a $3000 computer every one to two years, fine, do so. I do not wish to play that game, do not have the funds, do not want the latest MS OS, etc. <br><br>I like programs developed for Windows. That is why I remain with Windows. You are also wrong about XP. It is supported until 2014. My Service Pack 2 is not but that is OK. I don't want SP 3. I prefer SP 1 actually and frequently use a virtual machine that has it installed.<br><br>The only reason to buy a new computer would be to get a CPU with hardware virtualization. I don't even have DVD write capability (just read) but I have no reason to buy an optical drive with that ability as I have needed to make a DVD only ONCE since I got this computer and that was to make backup copies of my Vista Ultimate disks (I have both 32 bit and 64bit with separate keys).  I have managed ok with my virtual  machines without hardware virtualization but I would like to have it as probably that is the main cause of instability on the host. So, as I said, when this machine's extended warranty cannot be extended further then I will buy another desktop with a CPU with hardware virtualization and plenty of RAM for the virtual machines.  The irony though is that I don't look forward to that time like I did when I got my first computer in '99 or my second in 2003. <br><small>--<br>When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.  Thomas Jefferson</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[JohnInSJ posted :  <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>My computer is only 4.5 years old.<hr></blockquote>Or three generations back, in computer terms.<br> <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>Microsoft is replacing that EXCELLENT suite with some crap garbage on all OEM 64 bit computers sold after Jun 15 some shit Office 2010 starter package. I don't want Office. I want Works Suite. I have had several of them over the years and loved them. Microsoft goes DOWNHILL with each new OS and other software.<hr></blockquote>So, why do you use microsoft at all? There are plenty of alternatives. Many free. Most of which will run your hardware better than XP will.<br><br>It just seems like you jump through hoops to stay with a platform that is really showing its age, and is essentially EOL for support, from a company you don't like at all.<br><small>--<br>My place : &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.schettino.us" >www.schettino.us</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[JRosenfeld posted : You can read the MS social groups in Outlook Express if you prefer, using the NNTP bridge available here:<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://communitybridge.codeplex.com/" >communitybridge.codeplex.com/</A><br><br>Also the microsoft.public news groups are still available from several news servers, such as freenews.netfront.net. Even some of the ones MS says are discontinued are still active.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mele20 posted : My computer is only 4.5 years old. NOT nine. Word 2002 was purchased in FEBRUARY 2006 as a part of Microsoft Works Suite 2006  so it is slightly over 4 years old. This is a $3000 gaming computer that still works great. I will only buy a new one if I can't get further extended warranty after next Feb 1. <br><br>I like XP and Word 2002. I have Vista Ultimate and I don't care for it much because of how Explorer is different, search is pathetic and you have to use Agent Ransack instead, and all the unnecessary security crap that gets in your way. I had the beta of Win 7 and it is worse than Vista what with the insane changes in Start, task bar, even worse search than what is in Vista and no way to use Themes.  I have no interest in Aero and I expected Microsoft to continue Classic view but in Win 7 beta at least they have tried to ditched that and wish to force Aero or an extremely ugly accessibility theme. (Maybe that changed with the official release version. I don't know) I want to use MY themes that I use on XP. I can do so on Vista and that is the only reason I prefer Vista to Win 7. At least, I can make Vista look nice. You can't do that with Win 7 if you don't use Aero.  I also do NOT want IE8 (not that I use IE much). IE 8 will not honor my font settings. It keeps making the font gigantic (which I needed until I had my first eye surgery in April and now I use small fonts but IE8 won't allow that beside all the other problems with IE after IE6 like the horrible use of space, the completely crapped up tool bars and address bar).<br><br>As for Word when Microsoft went to the ribbon that was the end of Word. They ruined it and Office also.  Plus, there is no Works Suite anymore. Microsoft is replacing that EXCELLENT suite with some crap garbage on all OEM 64 bit computers sold after Jun 15 some shit Office 2010 starter package. I don't want Office. I want Works Suite. I have had several of them over the years and loved them. Microsoft goes DOWNHILL with each new OS and other software.  <br><small>--<br>When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.  Thomas Jefferson</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[JohnInSJ posted : Mele, why are you sticking with such an outdated software toolset? XP & Word 2002 are now 9 years old... might be time to move on. You can't really expect Microsoft to keep supporting them forever, can you?<br><small>--<br>My place : &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.schettino.us" >www.schettino.us</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dave posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/403861" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=403861');">Mele20</a>:</small><br><br>What does this have to do with my question?   </div>You tell me. You wrote the question I'm trying to answer:<br><br><div class="bquote">what is social about asking computer security questions? That is not party time "social" refers to parties and pau hana (after work party time</div>I took your question as being  relevant to your concerns. You wouldn't post anything irrelevant, right?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mele20 posted : Yes, that's it. Thanks. They are all gone on Outlook Express... I checked all the ones I subscribe to and they are all gone now and most of them have no place to post on Microsoft's "social" forums. It's a sad day in the history of MIcrosoft. :(<br><br>As Bruce Hagen says in the XP one, on the page you linked to, the newsgroups will continue to be carried on SOME independent news servers but no one knows for how long or what the quality of responses will be (or how much porn, etc there will be). <br><br>My ISP dropped News Groups a couple of years ago so I would have to subscribe to a free, independent news reader I guess to get them and I doubt they will remain the outstanding support they were when they belonged to Microsoft so I don't know if it is worth it to even go looking for a free newsreader that is carrying them after Sept 1. <br><br>A main reason Microsoft is doing this is to further the killing of both IE6 and Outlook Express and XP.  Microsoft hates that so many users are running XP inside Windows 7 just so they can have Outlook Express.  Microsoft also has no support in their forums for Virtual PC 2007SP1 and there was an outstanding MS News Group for it. Microsoft wants it dead too even though all of us without hardware virtualization can't run the newer version. <br><br>As for what answers I needed at the Microsoft forums, it turns out I got one answer here and the other issue, since there is also no Windows Updates forum at the Microsoft "social" forums and that was another really fine MS News Group, I decided to just try and install the security patch that I had the question about. The KB article has said it was only for Windows 2000 but the title of the article included XP. So, I figured if it was only for 2000 it wouldn't install. So, I tried installing it and got a message saying not that it was only for W2000 but saying I needed to have Windows Media Encoder installed first. Well, I do ...at least I have all the files but on another drive and a lot of those files were cloned from my previous XP machine. So, maybe I just have the files but don't actually have WM Encoder.  Anyhow, I guess I don't need the MS forum to ask that question. <br><small>--<br>When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.  Thomas Jefferson</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Barbara Ann posted : Is this the link to the Newsgroups?<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize&lang=en&cr=US" >www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expe&middot;&middot;&middot;en&cr=US</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mele20 posted : What does this have to do with my question?  I want to know how to post there since Microsoft has seen fit to remove support for their OUTSTANDING news groups in favor of the "social" forums that are pitful compared to the MS NGs but that is what there is now so I need to know how to be able to post there.<br><small>--<br>When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.  Thomas Jefferson</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dave posted : I did choose 'US view' at the OED. I believe Hawaii is part of the USA, no?<br><br>But if that's not good enough, here's George and Noah:<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/social" >www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/social</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mele20 posted : Oxford dictionary?  Yeah, if I lived in England. I live in Hawaii and "social" has nothing to do with fixing computer problems. "Social" is AFTER you fix the problems then you relax with a beer and friends. :D<br><small>--<br>When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.  Thomas Jefferson</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Cudni posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/403861" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=403861');">Mele20</a>:</small><br><br> So, is Word 2002 not vulnerable or has it gone completely unsupported now <br> </div>In your case it is probably not vulnerable as you don't have any known vulnerable component to protect against. That is why probably the fix failed to act as there was nothing to fix on your machine<br><br>Cudni<br><small>--<br>"what we know we know the same, what we don't know, we don't know it differently." <br>Help yourself so God can help you.<br>Microsoft MVP,  2006 - 2010/11</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dave posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/403861" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=403861');">Mele20</a>:</small><br><br>"social" refers to parties and pau hana (after work party time).</div>I see you're living in your own little world again.  Meanwhile, however, us English-speaking people generally consider the OED to know what words mean.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/social" >www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/social</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mele20 posted : Duh! How did I miss that? I read that list earlier and my brain just thought it saw Word 2002 there. :(  :o<br><br>Thank you again! I guess it is just as well that I couldn't post at Microsoft forums.  :D  So, is Word 2002 not vulnerable or has it gone completely unsupported now (even for security patches...I got one for it quite recently) and thus not included?<br><small>--<br>When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.  Thomas Jefferson</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Barbara Ann posted : [url]&raquo;<A HREF="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/983632/en-US/[/url]" >support.microsoft.com/kb/983632/en-US/[/url]</A><br><br>[url]&raquo;<A HREF="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/983235[/url]" >support.microsoft.com/kb/983235[/url]</A><br><br>The Fix it solution applies to Office XP on Windows XP-based systems, and the Fix it solution addresses issues in Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel, Microsoft PowerPoint, Microsoft Publisher, and Microsoft Visio.<br><br>APPLIES TO<br>Microsoft Office Ultimate 2007<br>Microsoft Office Basic Edition 2003<br>Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003<br>Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003<br>Microsoft Office Standard Edition 2003<br>Microsoft Office Student and Teacher Edition 2003<br>Microsoft Office Access 2003<br>Microsoft Office Excel 2003<br>Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003<br>Microsoft Office OneNote 2003<br>Microsoft Office Outlook 2003<br>Microsoft Office PowerPoint 2003<br>Microsoft Office PowerPoint 2003 Viewer<br>Microsoft Office Publisher 2003<br><b>Microsoft Office Word 2003</b><br>Microsoft Office Project Professional 2003<br>Microsoft Office Project Standard 2003<br>Microsoft Office Visio Professional 2003<br>Microsoft Office Visio Standard 2003<br><br>--------------------------------------<br><br>Mele - no Word 2002<br><small>--<br><i> I've reached the age where happy hour is a nap.<br><br> Google Earth Co-ordinates :  45&deg;31'10.19"N73&deg;40'14.42"W</i></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mele20 posted : Thank you Barbara Ann, but I have the file. It won't install.  I wanted to ask at the Microsoft forums why it won't install.<br><br>The error returned is:<br><br>"This MSFixit does not apply to your operating system or application version".<br><br>Yet the KB article states:<br><br>"The Fix it solution applies to Office XP on Windows XP-based systems, and the Fix it solution addresses issues in Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel, Microsoft PowerPoint, Microsoft Publisher, and Microsoft Visio." <br><br>I don't have the full Office XP. I have Word 2002. I have been doing all Word specific AND Office XP updates (so I have Office XP SP3 currently) since I got the computer before this one with Word 2002 and then later this computer with another copy of Word 2002 on it. When there was a Office Update site, and I would let it check my computer, it always had me install ANY Office XP updates/patches not just Word patches. <br><br>That error message makes no sense. This is an XP Fixit so how could this Fixit "not apply to your operating system"?<br><small>--<br>When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.  Thomas Jefferson</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Barbara Ann posted : Mele - I uploaded it to my Megaupload account.<br>IM me if you want it]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[AB posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/878241" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=878241');">JohnInSJ</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/403861" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=403861');">Mele20</a>:</small><br><br>I am trying to find out how to get the Fixit 5042 from KB983235 for Office XP to install. <br> </div>That was his question. </div>The only question I see asked in the O.P. of this thread is "So, how do I post a question there?"<br><br>*Edit- My mistake. I also see "what is social about asking computer security questions?"]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[JohnInSJ posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/403861" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=403861');">Mele20</a>:</small><br><br>I am trying to find out how to get the Fixit 5042 from KB983235 for Office XP to install. <br> </div>That was his question.<br><small>--<br>My place : &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.schettino.us" >www.schettino.us</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mele20 posted : This is really pissing me off. I could have gotten an answer very fast with NO problems if Microsoft had not killed their EXCELLENT News Groups.<br><br>I was forced to post in their social forums (what is social about asking computer security questions? That is not party time "social" refers to parties and pau hana (after work party time).  I couldn't get logged in as I could not get a login page/box. I finally figured out that was Proxo. I should not need to bypass Proxo to login. <br><br>I finally got logged in after trying different browsers on both XP and Vista. Then I composed my question using Fx 3 on Vista. I hit submit and got an "unknown error" and it did not post. So, I tried Opera 1010 (nice, stable, older version on XP). Same error. So, then I tried IE6 on XP and, would you believe, the same error occured!   :mad:<br><br>So, how do I post a question there? (I am trying to find out how to get the Fixit 5042 from KB983235 for Office XP to install). <br><small>--<br>When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.  Thomas Jefferson</small>]]></description>
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