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| ummm? Wow... I really can't believe everyone is getting so bent out of shape about this. If you're at home and in range of your microcell, you're probably well within range of your faster wifi connection.
Why anyone would use the microcell for data at home when they clearly have a network at home is beyond me. I think people are just looking for a reason to complain about something. |
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jpboss
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Wow... I really can't believe everyone is getting so bent out of shape about this. If you're at home and in range of your microcell, you're probably well within range of your faster wifi connection.
Why anyone would use the microcell for data at home when they clearly have a network at home is beyond me. I think people are just looking for a reason to complain about something.
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the microcell USES that SAME internet connection. The fact that you can connect to wifi is pretty irrelevant. Using the 3g microcell doesn't strain ATT's network at all - so why are they charging for it? The microcell uses the same internet connection that your wifi uses - the one you're already paying ANOTHER isp for.
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Agree. Use your wifi instead. Use the microcell for the actual phone call.
I have been trying to get one of these for our office building because reception is bad in certain locations (conf room, datacenter, etc). They wont provide one for businesses. Instead, I have a $4k agreement on my desk to get a repeater installed. |
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To me it seems like:
1) Karl has great cell service at home.
2) He wants microocell technology for the purpose of reducing his costs/caps.
Anything outside of this use he deems "useless to most people". He jumps at every opportunity to express this opinion. So on cue, I will come re-iterate my counter-point:
1) Not everyone is stifled by AT&T's limits. Three of us share 550 minutes with rollover on AT&T's minimum family plan, and we have been unable to use them all. We throw away minutes every month because of how many roll over minutes we've accumulated.
2) AT&T deployed a tower less than 4000' away from my home, but service still isn't great due to terrain. It probably never will be.
3) I really don't care about 3G data use through the microcell contributing to caps inside my home. Any device that consumes an appreciable amount of data also has wifi and will switch to that anyway. It's nice that that a "canonical" data connection through AT&T is still available for lesser devices without wifi.
So, I'd love to have an easy to install device that finally offers reliable service within my home. I'm happy to pay for the equipment, too. What I don't want is to pay additional monthly fees for something I don't need.
Someone mentioned $99. I think that'd be a fair price eventually. This is something new, so I'm not particularly shocked or offended that it's on the expensive side. Even at $300, it's still a better deal than most of the repeater systems I've looked at.
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said by tiger72:the microcell USES that SAME internet connection. The fact that you can connect to wifi is pretty irrelevant. Using the 3g microcell doesn't strain ATT's network at all - so why are they charging for it? The microcell uses the same internet connection that your wifi uses - the one you're already paying ANOTHER isp for. I'm going to give a WAG here, but I'm guessing the microcell creates a tunnel to AT&T's network. I imagine using 3G through it is akin to using a VPN. I think it's necessary for certain "private" services, Apple's Visual Voicemail being a big one. If that's the case, you certainly would be using AT&T's resources when using 3G data. You're not hitting the towers where the real bandwidth crunch is, of course, so offering this unlimited would be a "nice to have" but to me it doing this to a point where people's billing is heavily impacted seems like an edge case anyway.
If the microcell just directed data requests directly to your LAN as you suggest, AT&T would never see that traffic, so it wouldn't contribute to your data cap in the first place.
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Suffern, NY | reply to djrobx
said by djrobx:1) Not everyone is stifled by AT&T's limits. Three of us share 550 minutes with rollover on AT&T's minimum family plan, and we have been unable to use them all. We throw away minutes every month because of how many roll over minutes we've accumulated. In my opinion, offering roll-over-minutes is an explicate statement that you are paying for that number of minutes and if they are not used during the month then, since you have paid for them, you can use them the next month. The only problem is as you have found that they tend to accumulate and never get used. I feel that once your excess goes over some set limit, you should automatically temporally get switched to a lower limit plan to allow the excess to get burned off or, if you are already at the lowest plan, you should be given a free month so you can burn them off. |
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said by Kwikster :
Wow... I really can't believe everyone is getting so bent out of shape about this. If you're at home and in range of your microcell, you're probably well within range of your faster wifi connection.
Why anyone would use the microcell for data at home when they clearly have a network at home is beyond me. I think people are just looking for a reason to complain about something.
+1 to you... I was thinking the same thing... Why would I want to use the Microcell except for better call reception? If I am in range of a free Wi-Fi point why not use it?
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