 ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
kudos:4 | Welcome to the club.... Just like I mentioned it was only a matter of time until others followed suit, and here they come. |
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| people leave vzw thats all you do is leave and att. |
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KearnstdElf WizardPremium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to ptrowski
hey its America, our telecom providers are not about being first rate in the world. but simply making their investors as much money as possible while pissing all over the consumer because they know the other guys are doing the same thing or their high ETFs jail the customer into their service.
the main reason at least imo that they grandfather in existing customers is because a customer could refuse to pay the new charges and state the contract they signed stated unlimited.(of course the contracts likely also state rates subject to change).
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 SLDPremium
join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA | reply to ptrowski
For anyone that believes you can have competition in a mega-corporate environment, well, enjoy... |
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This type of pricing and caps are inevitable for at least 2 reasons:
1 - there is limited wireless capacity available and the rapidly increasing demand for wireless video will put pressure on the capacity available. Pricing mechanisms are the fairest way to allocate usage of the bandwidth.
2 - The continuing push for more regulation and for network neutrality can cause costs to go up and foreclose options for pricing flexibility. In other words, get the new pricing mechanism in before some gov't regulators foreclose on the option.
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ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
kudos:4 Reviews:
 ·VOIPo
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said by SLD:For anyone that believes you can have competition in a mega-corporate environment, well, enjoy... It coincides well with the renewed rumor of a CDMA iPhone over the holidays.
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 AlcoholPremium
join:2003-05-26
Climax, MI
kudos:3 | reply to ptrowski
Hopefully underrated Sprint and T-Mobile pick up customers that truly want unlimited data plans.
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The cowsumers will take it and smile. They will bitch in forums and make general threats about leaving, but they won't. Mean while the congregation at the church of apple will flock to their nearest cathedral to pick up the latest version of the apple bible on their shiny new iphones. AT&T (who can only see in black or white) will see an increase in sales (iphones) which will make them think that they made the right decision.
Consumers don't have any effect if they take what they are fed. If they would make a little noise things would change. Don't place the blame completely on the carriers. |
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 FBGuyyippee ki yayPremium
join:2005-03-19
 ·Comcast
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said by ptrowski:Just like I mentioned it was only a matter of time until others followed suit, and here they come. a matter of time? i was hoping they would have waited a few weeks at least. |
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 Z80APremium
join:2009-11-23 | reply to fAcEtIOUs
3 - Reluctance to reinvest in infrastructure to keep pace with demand despite record profits. |
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You're absolutely right! American telecom providers are about making money, not taking care of customers or providing good service. I'm always shocked when I visit Europe and find out how pervasive cell phone service is.
I live in West Suburban Boston, on Verizon wireless, and once you are outside route 128, cell service is not good unless you are very close to a major highway like Mass Pike, Routes 2,3, or 93. In my local neighborhood, I drop probably half of incoming calls, and I'm only 4 miles from 128. |
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Z80APremium
join:2009-11-23 | reply to Alcohol
From what I read, T-Mobile doesn't have the cap, but they traffic shape or throttle throughput for users after a certain point. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | reply to Z80A
People continue to trot out this misinformation, contrary to the telecoms' financial documents showing billions being spent on CAPEX. |
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said by Z80A:3 - Reluctance to reinvest in infrastructure to keep pace with demand despite record profits. »www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/mobile/06/···4.apple/
In an effort to deal with the surge in usage, AT&T increased its capital spending budget to between $18 billion and $19 billion in 2010. It promised to use a portion of the money to upgrade its wireless and backhaul networks to handle the onslaught of new wireless traffic. This is roughly $2 billion more than the company had invested in the previous year.
The upgrades include the addition of 2,000 new cell sites. AT&T has also been adding three times more fiber links to existing cell sites than it had in 2009. This will increase capacity for the backhaul network that connects the cell towers to AT&T's main network. The backhaul portion of the network is a critical component to AT&T's network. »www.marketwatch.com/story/verizo···10-04-22
Capital expenditures totaled $3.5 billion in the first quarter of 2010. Verizon reiterated its guidance that total 2010 capital spending will range from $16.8 billion to $17.2 billion. 50% of Verizon's cap expenditures go to Wireless. And about the same % for AT&T.
Cap expenditures are running about 4x their profits. So to say that they aren't investing in infrastructure is wrong.
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gigantePremium
join:2000-06-30
Anchorage, AK | reply to Z80A
I hear MetroPCS subject you to awful music and 24-hour streaming of their self-indulgent commercials straight to your handset. |
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VZ Wireless's Official Statement
"After exhaustive research into our customers's usage habits that spanned six months, we found 99% use less than 1 megabyte a month except for VCast. So, we are charging $30 for 5 gigs and VCast will do all the rest." |
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ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
kudos:4 Reviews:
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said by FBGuy:said by ptrowski:Just like I mentioned it was only a matter of time until others followed suit, and here they come. a matter of time? i was hoping they would have waited a few weeks at least. I know huh? I was thinking the same thing.
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said by SLD:For anyone that believes you can have competition in a mega-corporate environment, well, enjoy... because T-Mobile and Sprint don't exist or because Clear, Cricket, and others are quickly gaining market share at lower price points and more unlimited offerings?
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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The difference is that Verizon appears not to be going the 2GB cap route at this time, and probably won't ever have that at their highest smartphone cap at any point. If they were going to do that, they would have already, rather than starting their own PR bubble due to such an event. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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The thing is that AT&T is adding tons of customers and the capex isn't keeping up. For what it's worth, dividing capex over all of AT&T's 87 million customers you get $218 per year per customer. Not bad considering there's OpEx involved and profits have to fit somewhere, but that amount is less than what a user would spend over a year on the iPhone data plan if we're talking about 2GB, and less than any contract-bound user pays as long as you don't count add-a-line.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't AT&T ARPU somewhere in the neighborhood of $50 at this point? Even with capex they're still making a healthy profit... |
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