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shadowgod

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Just switch to Sprint

Just switch to Sprint, best phones, best prices, and UNLIMITED data.

Z80A
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Re: Just switch to Sprint

No thanks. Mediocre phones, mediocre service (at least when I had them) and unlimited data until they actually get customers in quantity, then they'll cap like everyone else.
xenophon

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Re: Just switch to Sprint

48 Million isn't quantity?

They also have EVO, the hottest phone since iPhone, a bunch of BlackBerry's and a slew of Android phones coming this year. How is that mediocre compared to VZW?

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Re: Just switch to Sprint

said by xenophon:

48 Million isn't quantity?

They also have EVO, the hottest phone since iPhone, a bunch of BlackBerry's and a slew of Android phones coming this year. How is that mediocre compared to VZW?
So hot that they had to over inflate the launch numbers?

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xenophon

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Re: Just switch to Sprint

HTC didn't make enough for the demand. They ares still selling more EVOs that can be made. Apparently only 150K were available for launch day - still more than first Droid or Droid Incredible. Best Buy said EVO was best selling phone ever for them, including iPhone.

Yeah, Sprint screwed up launch numbers, doesn't mean it's still the hottest selling phone right now.

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said by xenophon:

HTC didn't make enough for the demand. They ares still selling more EVOs that can be made. Apparently only 150K were available for launch day - still more than first Droid or Droid Incredible. Best Buy said EVO was best selling phone ever for them, including iPhone.

Yeah, Sprint screwed up launch numbers, doesn't mean it's still the hottest selling phone right now.
"Dunn, speaking on an earnings conference call following disappointing fiscal first-quarter results, said the "4G HTC Evo is the best-selling device in Best Buy Mobile." Dunn added that "Android platform sales are outstanding.""

That says it is the best selling device, but doesn't say "ever".
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xenophon

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Re: Just switch to Sprint

Guess EVO is not very hot then.

In the end, they are selling more than can be made...

»www.brighthand.com/default.asp?n···Sold+Out

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Re: Just switch to Sprint

said by xenophon:

Guess EVO is not very hot then.

In the end, they are selling more than can be made...

»www.brighthand.com/default.asp?n···Sold+Out
I can see by your posting history you are obviously extremely pro Sprint, which is great. But trying to compare sales numbers of a current phone (Evo) to the sales numbers of the first generation iPhone is somewhat silly. Compare that to the most recent iPhone 3gS sales and it's not close, never mind the 4.

It's a great selling phone for Sprint which they really need.
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said by xenophon:

48 Million isn't quantity?

They also have EVO, the hottest phone since iPhone, a bunch of BlackBerry's and a slew of Android phones coming this year. How is that mediocre compared to VZW?
Correct, Verizon and AT&T have nearly twice as many. Compared to Verizon with 92.8M and AT&T 87M, Sprint isn't shit. If Sprint had 90M users, they would be capping like crazy, particularly since Sprint continues to LOSE MONEY AND BLEED SUBSCRIBERS

And yeah, EVO, big seller. iPhone 4 only outsold it by over 9 to 1 the first day. Hell, even with the ordering problems they sold 4X as many iPhone 4s in 1 day than Sprint sold EVOs their entire release weekend.
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xenophon

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Re: Just switch to Sprint

said by Z80A:

And yeah, EVO, big seller. iPhone 4 only outsold it by over 9 to 1 the first day. Hell, even with the ordering problems they sold 4X as many iPhone 4s in 1 day than Sprint sold EVOs their entire release weekend.
iPhone would do well given an established base of 14m+ active iPhone users on ATT, maybe much more. 600K is small really for upgraders alone.

Only point was that EVO is hot, not a mediocre phone as implied.

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The iPhone accounted for 58.8% of mobile Web usage at the end of May, compared to 19.9% for Android phones and 10.4% for Research in Motion's BlackBerry, Quantcast reported Monday. While those numbers favor Apple, the trend over the last 12 months do not. Compared to the same month a year ago, the iPhone's share in Web usage fell 8.1%, while Android Phones' share rose 12.2%.
It will be interesting to see the stats at the end of the year. If iPhone continues to lose share, it will imply that most iPhones 4 sales are upgrades rather than expansion of user base.

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There is nothing "hot" about 150K unit release weekend unless it was 2007. EVO is mediocre. Even Sprint tried to play down their mediocre sales numbers.

And with Android available on so many carriers and some of those carriers GIVING the phones away (like VZW does with Droid's buy 1 get 1) I have no doubt they will outsell Apple's 3 handset models on a single carrier. I would bet within a few years they outsell RIM as well. Free is a hard price point to beat.
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xenophon

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said by Z80A:

There is nothing "hot" about 150K unit release weekend unless it was 2007. EVO is mediocre. Even Sprint tried to play down their mediocre sales numbers.
That's just Day 1. They simply didn't make enough Day 1 and that was a huge mistake as many stores sold out by early afternoon. I'd be pissed if a Sprint investor that enough weren't there for Day 1. They've been restocking phones just about every day and selling out just about every day.

Palm Pre was making 15K phones a day. I'd guess HTC could match that if not more but if only that many, then it will only hit about 500K first month. Sales are obviously limited by manufacturing as the demand is obviously there.

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Z80A
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Re: Just switch to Sprint

Mediocre
xenophon

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Re: Just switch to Sprint

Smile...

Z80A Dictionary:

Mediocre - A product that sells out continuously but if it is not equal to iPhone sales, it's mediocre.

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Re: Just switch to Sprint

Seems you are the only one impressed by EVOs sales. Even Sprint is downplaying them. And yeah, 1/10th of iPhone sales is less than iPhone sales. 60K on release and 150K for the weekend is mediocre unless it is 2007.

Perhaps Sprint is more preoccupied with their losing hundreds of millions every quarter and LOSING customers.

So that would make Sprint LESS than mediocre.
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xenophon

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Re: Just switch to Sprint

Impressed by daily sellouts as stock replenishes? Don't think I'm the only one impressed.

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Who else is impressed with these ongoing sales numbers? Sprint is bleeding money and customers and the EVO is merely mediocre. The EVO is just another in a long line of iPhone killers that weren't. Storm, Pre, EVO, all mediocre.

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Re: Just switch to Sprint

said by Z80A:

Sprint is bleeding money and customers and the EVO is merely mediocre.
Citation needed.
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Z80A
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Re: Just switch to Sprint

Already given »Re: Just switch to Sprint

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Re: Just switch to Sprint

Read what i quoted again and provide correct source.
Thanks.
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Z80A
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Re: Just switch to Sprint

READ IT AGAIN along with this

Sprint continues to LOSE MONEY AND BLEED SUBSCRIBERS

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Re: Just switch to Sprint

There that wasn't that hard was it?
Next time post with a source from the beginning so i don't have to keep reminding you..
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Z80A
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Re: Just switch to Sprint

Evidently following links is very hard for ya. I did post the source (and copied the HTML again just for you). You just don't read posts before replying.

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Yeah. Nice edits there.

Edit: Stay on topic. I don't want this thread to get locked when you start going off topic (again). Once you've provided the correct source i'm happy and ready to move on.

Z80A
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Re: Just switch to Sprint

Read the posts before replying and you won't have any trouble seeing any linked items.

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lol good joke coming from you.
glinc

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Too bad Sprint force you to have all 5 phones on a family plan with data plan. If only they had the option of adding a line for $9.99 or $19.99 like VZW then it'll be great.
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Re: Just switch to Sprint

Sprint's data-centric family plans are $20 a pop for add-a-line, and that includes data AND messaging. Want cheaper? Everything Plus Referral Program is the same thing for $15 per line.

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Sprint is hands down the best provider and is anything but mediocre. Verizon and AT&T are just too damn big and they know that Sprint needs about 40 million more subscribers to become a threat. Sprint is in good spot right now, for both themselves and consumers. Big enough to provide for their subscribers but not too big to not care. I’d rather have Sprint sit at #3, I’d rather they didn’t have a super sought after phone like the Jesus Phone. Where would AT&T be today without the iPhone? Seriously, they have no other compelling handsets, they have the same selection of Blackberries all other the other providers have and the Blackjack.

I had my eye on the Evo since the specs were first announced and I had absolutely no problem paying the $100 ETF to AT&T be rid of them and the iPhone. It was a blessing! Seriously I will never do business with AT&T again and subject myself to their inferior subpar network and I doubt I will buy another Apple product again. The cult like fanbois they attract is a major turn off along with being under the control of Stevie Jobs, who is perhaps the world’s biggest control freak. I’m still amazed at what you can do with the Android platform. Don’t like the email app? Don’t like the Music app? Download a different one! I had my iPhone jailbroken, which is a must, anyone who uses an iPhone or iTampon should jailbreak. And still Android beats the iPhone OS, ehhh iOS in every way shape and form. Apple is pretty much command and obey, their restrictions are insane and I wish more people would stand up to them. Mactards will bash Microsoft like there’s no tomorrow, but Apple is a lot more restrictive and controlling then Microsoft ever has been.

What found funny is at the Sprint Store an employee and happy new Evo customer where talking about rooting the Evo. Want to get a cool reaction, go to an Apple Store and find an Apple dweeb, engage in conversation about the iPhone then say the world ‘jailbreak’ and watch the reaction. It’s funny, sad and pretty disgusting at the sad time that Apple has so much control over people.

Hardwarewise, the Evo is superior in every way over the iPhone 3GS. I didn’t pay attention to the specs on the iPhone 4 but I’m sure it’s on par. Apple is no longer the leader they are the follower. The only reason the iPhone is so popular is because of Apple Fanbois and their marketing. And it doesn’t help they have AT&T as their exclusive carrier in the US. My old Nextel phone from 2004 had MMS capabilities, us iPhone owners (the world best phone according to some) just got that 9 months ago.

I don’t know, I don’t see what the big hubbub about the iPhone is anymore. Apple had their 15 minutes of fame with it and their sheeple will shell out a few hundred bucks each and every year just to have the latest and greatest and solute teh Steve.

And as far as pricing goes, wanna know what rough ass rape feels like? Sign up for an AT&T account and take it all day long! I pay $160/month for a Sprint Family Plan. Three phones, unlimited talk to any cell phone in America, 1500 anytime minutes to landlines with unlimited night & weekends starting at 7PM, unlimited text, unlimited data, GPS, Voice Mail, Caller ID, Call Waiting, et al across all three. With AT&T that’s the cost of one iPhone. I still can’t believe AT&T charges extra for Telenav, when it’s the EXACT SAME thing Sprint offers for free.

The iPhone may have name recognition, history, a shiny Apple logo and a group of cult worshipers behind it, who will buy it in droves, but that does not mean it’s better. IMO The Evo is a better phone then the iPhone, Android is a better platform then iOS and Sprint is a better service then AT&T. And I don’t care what the Apple freaks have to say because they’re thinking with their love for the great one, Steve Jobs, not logically. I really don’t care how many millions of iPhones were sold, or how many AT&T subscribers there are. The more sheeple duped into getting service with AT&T the more bandwidth available on other providers.

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Re: Just switch to Sprint

I was a Sprint customer before I went to VZW and it is no surprise to me that they are still losing money and losing customers. It is a reflection of how truly horrible Sprint is. If Sprint was so awesome, they would be gaining, not losing subscribers.

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Re: Just switch to Sprint

You're also obviously an Apple Fanboi. Sorry I can't take anything you post of value because there is an ulterior motive behind it. It AT&T is so great, then why is pretty much the #1 complaint about the iPhone is the carrier? I don’t care what numbers say, Sprint > AT&T. AT&T is horrible, how many of you Apple Fanbois would be with AT&T if it wasn’t for the iPhone? Your love and allegiance to Apple takes precedence over reality, common sense and logic. Hence why you guys pay out the ass while taking it up the ass for a vastly inferior service.

If AT&T and Verizon didn't buy out a bunch of smaller providers over the years, they'd all be the same size as far as number of subscribers go. As long as Sprint continues to invest into their network that's all I care about. I have zero complaints about Sprint when to either side, CDMA or iDEN.

Oh and it is nice to be able to keep my Evo on my desk without having interference from my computer speakers everytime it connects to the data network or before an incoming call comes in. Other than SIM cards(which iDEN uses as well) I can’t say I’m too impressed with GSM.

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Re: Just switch to Sprint

Don't take my word for it, read Sprint's quarterly report. Tens of thousands of customers are fleeing Sprint every quarter and they are losing hundreds of millions of dollars every quarter.

Must be because they're so bitchen. Customers just can stand the sheer awesomeness so they bail for Sprint's competitors.
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Steve Mehs
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Re: Just switch to Sprint

Why is it you have yet to comment on any point or anything at all other than subscriber numbers? I'm not a Sprint shareholder, number of subscribers means nothing to me. I'd rather have Sprint be in the position they're in now then be AT&T or Verizon.

Number of subscribers doesn't change the fact my Evo runs circles around my iPhone.

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I point out Sprint's subscriber numbers as an indication of their performance with consumers. They drop prices to try and save customers but while it has slowed the gushing, they're still fleeing by the tens of thousands.

Add to this they're losing nearly a billion a quarter so what happens. They can either raise prices and lose even more customers or keep prices where they are and run out of cash.

You may be happy with Sprint but obviously a great many more aren't as customers are fleeing. If they were as great as you claim they would at least be posting net adds, especially given their latest loss generating pricing scheme.
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Re: Just switch to Sprint

said by Z80A:

I point out Sprint's subscriber numbers as an indication of their performance with consumers. They drop prices to try and save customers but while it has slowed the gushing, they're still fleeing by the tens of thousands.

Add to this they're losing nearly a billion a quarter so what happens. They can either raise prices and lose even more customers or keep prices where they are and run out of cash.

You may be happy with Sprint but obviously a great many more aren't as customers are fleeing. If they were as great as you claim they would at least be posting net adds, especially given their latest loss generating pricing scheme.
Actually Sprint's doing fine. It's their Nextel acquisition that is bleeding customers.
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Well they're not bailing to T-Mobile, Z, as they've been losing customers of late also. I suppose that they must be horrible too. Ah, if only things were always so black and white. Alas, it's an exercise in futility to try and have a discussion with someone who is apparently totally incapable of considering any other viewpoint than their own...Save your keystrokes, Steve.
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Re: Just switch to Sprint

Just as it is futile to have one with someone who ignores reality. Sprint is the Charter Cable of the cellular world. (I'm sure there are some Charter fans out there too just as there are people to still swear by AOL)

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said by shadowgod:

Just switch to Sprint, best phones, best prices, and UNLIMITED data.
Great let me know as soon as Sprint bothers to provide basic cell service in my area let alone 3G then maybe I'll try them.

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