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iLive4Fusion
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Lazy

Probably are too lazy to tweak the billing system to tell the difference between the tower and Microcell.
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Karl Bode
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That was my thought. Either they simply figure they can score a few million extra off of users not aware they're using 3G instead of Wi-Fi, or they simply can't figure out how to differentiate the billing here and don't want to admit as much...


xenophon

join:2007-09-17

reply to iLive4Fusion
Yeah, I'd too guess it's a design flaw at some layer and they are too lazy to fix it.



iLive4Fusion
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reply to Karl Bode

said by Karl Bode:

That was my thought. Either they simply figure they can score a few million extra off of users not aware they're using 3G instead of Wi-Fi, or they simply can't figure out how to differentiate the billing here and don't want to admit as much...
Possibly both! it is AT&T you know haha
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iLive4Fusion
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reply to xenophon

said by xenophon:

Yeah, I'd too guess it's a design flaw at some layer and they are too lazy to fix it.
Just like UVERSE they are cutting corners.
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Uncle Paul

join:2003-02-04
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reply to Karl Bode
Or they want the Microcell to fail so they can 'prove' customers just don't want them.



en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

reply to Karl Bode
The 3G microcell was most likely designed w/o any reference to caps, and kept it cheap/simple. Now they have a way to make a quick buck.

Problems with this..

If AT&T designed this to be '3g only' then why were they intent on
voice as the primary use ? I poked about on this issue last week on HoFo and AT&T Facebook, and had the same response.

If AT&T wants users to use a WiFi network for data, then why didn't they include a WiFi radio into the microcell? Not everyone has a WiFi enabled device (router).

Also, along with the 'smart phone should connect to WiFi' - I know that the iPhone picks up WiFi before it will hit 3G... what about other devices (WinMo, Blackberry, Android, Pre)? Many many not know how (or forget) to switch to WiFi (conflicts with Bluetooth), and AT&T will have easy money.



KrK
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reply to iLive4Fusion

said by iLive4Fusion:

Just like UVERSE they are cutting corners.
Can I get an Amen!


NickD
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Princeton Junction, NJ

reply to iLive4Fusion
If you have a microcell in your home, can your neighbors use it too if they have the same cellular provider? That shouldn't be a problem unless your broadband bandwidth is capped.



KSUJace
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join:2001-12-01
Chicago, IL

reply to iLive4Fusion
My exact thoughts ... too complex or no cost benefit for AT&T to make the technical change on the billing system to identify what is M-Cell data vs regular 3G tower data.



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reply to KrK

said by KrK:

said by iLive4Fusion:

Just like UVERSE they are cutting corners.
Can I get an Amen!
Amen!!
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iLive4Fusion
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reply to NickD

said by NickD:

If you have a microcell in your home, can your neighbors use it too if they have the same cellular provider? That shouldn't be a problem unless your broadband bandwidth is capped.
They could but I think you have to add them to your list.
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spewak
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reply to KrK

said by KrK:

said by iLive4Fusion:

Just like UVERSE they are cutting corners.
Can I get an Amen!
Amen!
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FredIsDead

join:2010-02-24
San Antonio, TX

reply to iLive4Fusion

said by iLive4Fusion:

Probably are too lazy to tweak the billing system to tell the difference between the tower and Microcell.
usually not lazy, just their IT systems seem to be from the 80s and it takes them forever to make any changes.

They have a really brittle infrastructure and they seem to not be able to make common sense changes to adapt to changing conditions.


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said by FredIsDead:

said by iLive4Fusion:

Probably are too lazy to tweak the billing system to tell the difference between the tower and Microcell.
usually not lazy, just their IT systems seem to be from the 80s and it takes them forever to make any changes.

They have a really brittle infrastructure and they seem to not be able to make common sense changes to adapt to changing conditions.
Isn't that lazy in and of itself for having such old IT systems?
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jtudor
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Morganton, NC

Seems like most big companies are that way with their billing systems.

Another OT example is that it's been 2 years since Sirius and XM merged. I still can not add the factory installed Sirius radio in my wife's car to my XM family plan. I still have to pay full price for that subscription.

I believe they want that extra income and even though they promised that would be an option at the time of the merger, they seem to be dragging it out as long as possible.
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reply to en102

said by en102:

The 3G microcell was most likely designed w/o any reference to caps, and kept it cheap/simple. Now they have a way to make a quick buck.

Problems with this..

If AT&T designed this to be '3g only' then why were they intent on
voice as the primary use ? I poked about on this issue last week on HoFo and AT&T Facebook, and had the same response.

If AT&T wants users to use a WiFi network for data, then why didn't they include a WiFi radio into the microcell? Not everyone has a WiFi enabled device (router).

Also, along with the 'smart phone should connect to WiFi' - I know that the iPhone picks up WiFi before it will hit 3G... what about other devices (WinMo, Blackberry, Android, Pre)? Many many not know how (or forget) to switch to WiFi (conflicts with Bluetooth), and AT&T will have easy money.
that router would have to be 10 years old

itguy05

join:2005-06-17

quote:
that router would have to be 10 years old
Or that person may only use the cable company's modem and connect directly to their computer. Or the DSL company, etc.

Generally those with 1 computer will not have a router. I know many in this situation.


scots
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Raleigh, NC
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reply to NickD
Nobody can connect to the MicroCell unless they're on the list of authorized devices. The phone number, or numbers if you have a family plan, from your account are automatically added to the list when the MicroCell is added to your account. You can add any other AT&T Wireless phone numbers you want to the list for a total of up to 10 phone numbers. This prevents your neighbors or someone walking down the street from connecting to your MicroCell unless you've add their number to your list.



en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

reply to Anonymous_
I should say 'Cable modem' not router (TWC Ambit with phone jack).


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