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1 edit | Re: ??? No it isnt using a cell tower, but what do you think the microcell connects to at the other end? Equipment that costs nothing to run and maintain? These are users already paying for a monthly wireless voice and 3G connection, a home broadband connection, possibly an additional home landline connection, and shelling out the upfront cost for the device itself (plus a monthly fee of about $20 if they want unlimited voice).
Just how much do people think routing minor voice traffic over AT&T's core network costs? It's certainly not in line with 200MB and 2GB caps and $10-$15 per GB overages, plus all these other costs. Again, the caps should not apply to Microcell traffic. | |
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1 edit | Re: ??? I am glad for you and the many others who have great cell service in your home and can snub your nose at these devices... Hmm.
One, my in-home cell coverage with AT&T is generally shit.
Two, I'm not "snubbing my nose" at these devices, as-so-much as I'm suggesting that pricing for them is somewhat predatory and unreasonable in the face of the fact that most of the cost is already being carried by the end user. | |
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1 edit | Re: ??? We should all be happy to pay more for the privilege of using their service. /sarcasm
Its completely predatory, the customer already pays top $$ for service and then when they cannot provide adequate service they attempt to further fleece the customer in order for the honor of sending them X dollars a month.
This is what I told Verizon when they wanted to charge me $249 for one and then I told them I will be porting my number to another service. After a 20 minute conversation with a nice guy at VZW (from what I assume was the retention dept) , I talked him down to $50 and there's no monthly charge for using it with VZW. | |
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| Re: ??? How does the fact that I bought one change anything? I did what I needed to do to maintain a phone without having to get a land line.
I paid 1/5 of what they wanted to victimize me for, $50 vs $249. I did the math and buying new phones (actually 1 since the wife uses a cheap free model) for our family plan would have been more costly. If I had to pay any monthly fee for the use I would've went to another company instantly.
It still left a bad taste in my mouth and if ATT didn't suck in the New York metro area I probably would've jumped ship anyway. I went with whatever cost me less in the long term. They should provide it free of charge to customers if they allow you to sign up for service in an area that has crap reception. They know where they have trouble areas and if they're willing to sign you up when your in one of them they should offer it as part of the service. | |
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| | | | | said by margaf77:Its completely predatory, the customer already pays top $$ for service and then when they cannot provide adequate service they attempt to further fleece the customer in order for the honor of sending them X dollars a month. Believe or not, you're not forced at gunpoint to signup to a network that doesn't provide adequate coverage. If you choose to live somewhere that has poor coverage and you choose to get a phone anyway, that's your problem. They are providing you with a way to fix it. If they want to give it to you for free, good for them, but I don't see why it should be compulsory. | |
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| Re: ??? I already give them a nice chunk of money every month and if they wanted to keep my business and continue receiving a check from me every month then they better provide it or they can pound salt. And charging someone for one when it uses the customers internet and takes the burden off their equipment is ludicrous. I wasnt willing to pay more to use their service and then burden MY equipment (internet, router spot, etc) to extend their network.
I dont live in the sticks, I live 10 mins from Manhattan, and when I moved here I found there was dead spot and called up and when they wanted to hit me for $249 told them they could kiss my ass for that...after asking and getting the OK to kill the contract. I gave it a couple of days to think about what I wanted to do and who I was going to port my lines to.
They called me back and began a negotiation which I told the guy I wasnt willing to pay a thing for it. We went back and forth and he finally asked me what I was realistically willing to pay I told him $50 not a penny more and BAM I got it.
Having a customer pay a monthly fee and pay for equipment for the privilege of being a customer and paying already high fees is complete bullshit, plain and simple. The only reason I went for the $50 is the cost of a decent phone on another provider would've been much more. | |
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| Re: ??? said by margaf77:And charging someone for one when it uses the customers internet and takes the burden off their equipment is ludicrous.I wasnt willing to pay more to use their service and then burden MY equipment (internet, router spot, etc) to extend their network. when I moved here I found there was dead spot and called up and when they wanted to hit me for $249 told them they could kiss my ass for that Weird. Just much burden were you putting on there equipment when you were in a dead zone? You said several times you have trouble getting service at all.
Just how much of a "burden" do you think these little devices and there piddly streams of voice traffic put on your internet connection and router?
Look, I realize that the whole "oh my god they want to route my cell traffic over my internet connection that I pay for?!" attitude is a popular one to take around here, but if you want to play the penny pincher attitude, think of it this way....your internet connection ends up costing you MORE each month unless it is being utilized 24/7 you do realize that right? Let it sit at any less than its full potential means the value that you receive is less and less.
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| Re: ??? Your argument is plain silly, I pay to be able to use the service anywhere I go, I didnt have the "Can you hear me now?" guy here, I had a bum with a tin can and a string. I wasnt in a dead zone when I signed my contract, it became an issue when I moved to the godforsaken shithole that is Bayonne, NJ.
Im fully aware of the small amount of traffic it generates but it is using a connection I pay for but when I am downloading large files I have to leave a small amount of bandwidth reserved for the extender using QOS, or my cell call is broken up which of course I dont change back so its just "lost" bandwidth.
I see you just want to argue a silly point endlessly. Ill leave it at this I, as well as a majority people here, see this as a scummy practice. I wouldve quicker jumped ship and bought new phones before I gave them a completely unreasonable $249 for the network extender. | |
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| Re: ??? said by margaf77:godforsaken shithole that is Bayonne, NJ. which of course I dont change back so its just "lost" bandwidth. Off topic but I guess I could agree with that. 
said by margaf77:which of course I dont change back so its just "lost" bandwidth. Then you either did not configure it right, or your router does not handle true QoS correctly. QoS policies should only be instituted when bandwidth becomes limited for whatever reason.
I am uploading full bore right now but if I start a phone call my router will slice out the needed bandwidth and devote it to the phone adapters. Once I hang up, the router will give the bandwidth back to the stuff I am uploading.
said by margaf77: I pay to be able to use the service anywhere I go If you truly believe that is what you signed up for and should realistically get, then I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.
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| | | | | I am missing the pic of the verizon person with the gun to your head telling you, you have to buy this... Till I see it I say balderdash!! | |
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| Re: ??? said by notwrth10:I am missing the pic of the verizon person with the gun to your head telling you, you have to buy this... Till I see it I say balderdash!! While technically true, totally wimpy all the same. | |
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| said by notwrth10:I am missing the pic of the verizon person with the gun to your head telling you, you have to buy this... Till I see it I say balderdash!! Use your head for something aside from a hat rack next time. Its not a gun, its a contract with ridiculous ETF fees. | |
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