 Mele20Premium join:2001-06-05 Hilo, HI kudos:4 | reply to drew
Re: IPv6 enabled, when? "Fixed" and "object"? What is fixed and to what do you object? |
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 Dude111An Awesome DudePremium join:2003-08-04 USA kudos:10 | reply to drew I agree!!!!
This change to v6 will cut alot of us off!! (Unless the hardware converts it which will most likely cause SLOWDOWNS) |
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| Please research the topic, including enabling IPv6 in your OS, before spreading FUD like that. I mean, exactly what needs converting? We are talking about enabling an extra real or virtual network interface with another IP address, which happens to be an IPv6 address. How do you propose that will affect the interface that's on IPv4? Also, if a site is IPv6 only(which nobody here is proposing) and your connection is IPv4-only, it's at the software level(your OS) that tunneling gets enabled. That can cause a little bit of slowdown if the particular tunnel is overloaded, but it should be able to output as much bandwidth as any other server on the internet. Do a little research Dude111 and you'll find your fears are unfounded and BBR will work fine for you still. -- The new Sony rootkit-Using the ability to remove features you paid for. What's next? Boycott Sony products »[Rant] ps3 update = no more Linux |
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 Dude111An Awesome DudePremium join:2003-08-04 USA kudos:10 | reply to TomS_ Im on Win98se (And many others are also) Will it work for us?? |
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| said by »www.windowsnetworking.com/articl···ows.html :Sometime in 1998 Microsoft Research releases its first trial version IPv6 protocol stack, which can be installed on Windows 95 or Windows 98 to provide limited IPv6 support. If you're still running Windows 98 (orhelp us!Windows 95) on any machines on your network, then having them use IPv6 is pretty much out of the question. The solution? Upgrade to Windows XP immediately, or wait for Windows Vista to be released towards the end of 2006. --
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 TomS_Git-r-donePremium,MVM join:2002-07-19 Ireland kudos:1 | reply to Dude111 said by Dude111:Im on Win98se (And many others are also) Will it work for us?? Yes, because IPv4 is not being switched off like a light in preference of IPv6. People need to stop thinking that is what will happen, because it wont. |
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 TomS_Git-r-donePremium,MVM join:2002-07-19 Ireland kudos:1 1 edit | reply to drew said by drew:Far more pressing matters to attend to. Can you elaborate?
I am genuinely interested to know what is far more important to the Internet right now than what protocol we are going to use to access it into the future. |
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| reply to usa2k What about Trumpet? I never really played with it, but it's supposed to enable IPv6 in 98, 98SE and 95. Those OS are Swiss Cheese on the internet anyways. It's about time someone killed their network access for the greater security of both the typical user still using these OSes and the rest of the internet. Not even a filesystem with access controls or non-privileged user accounts. You can only secure that so far, other than just sheer avoidance of exposure to threats. Don't expect your AV(if it even works under those) to stand up to even 50% of threats is a good rule to follow even today. Today, you do have things to complement your firewall and AV. -- The new Sony rootkit-Using the ability to remove features you paid for. What's next? Boycott Sony products »[Rant] ps3 update = no more Linux |
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| reply to TomS_ In IPv4 space, we are running out of time.
Please do, not widdle your thumbs - either, something.
Thanks.
From Security Now! with Steve Gibson, Episode 271, recorded October 19, 2010: Your questions, Steve's answers, #103.
quote: David Eckard in Durham, North Carolina, wonders about IP space depletion. And we ain't talkin' the Shuttle here. He says, "Subject: 95% used up." He said, according to this article, and he quotes a CNET article, IPv4 addresses are now all but 5 percent done. And they're calling for an orderly move to IPv6.
quote: So to give our listeners a sense for where we are, at the beginning of '06 there still remained 62 unallocated, what's called a "slash eight network," meaning only the top, specifying just the top eight bits of the network address out of a total of 256 of them, which is how many combinations in a single byte. 62, even in '06, were still unallocated; so, what, just shy of one quarter of the entire Internet, because 64 is one quarter of 256 possibilities. So 62 were unallocated in 2006. One year later, that number had dropped to 49 in '07. One year later, in '08, to 41. In '09, to 32. At the beginning of 2010, we were at 22. Today we're at 12.
Leo: Wow.
Steve: So, yeah.
Leo: That's a dramatic drop.
Steve: Yeah. And so things like 5-dot will not be available for long. In fact, my feeling is, my summation to sort of sum this up overall for David and our listeners, is I think 2011 is going to be very interesting.
Leo: Interesting in not a good way.
Steve: Yeah. I mean, at the rate it's been dropping, we burned up, between '08 and '09, we went from 41 to 32. So that burned up nine. From the beginning of '09 to '10, to 2010, we went from 32 to 22. So we burned up 10 more. Between 2010 and now we went from 22 to 12, meaning we burned up another 10 in less than a year.
Leo: It's accelerating.
Steve: Yes. It was nine for the prior year, 10 for the year after, and now we're already at 10, and we're not done with this year. Which says, and this is what the predictions are, that before this time, before October is through of 2011, we're done. We're out.
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Re: IPv6 enabled, when? I did ask Nac and they said they could provide an IPv6 address and gateway if we wanted it. Whether easydns will support that or not I don't know.
Since you are familiar with using the ipv6 content on the web, do you know of any popular sites that are also available on ipv6 especially if they put up any info on doing it? |
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»www.ipv6forum.com/ipv6_enabled/a···list.php
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 TomS_Git-r-donePremium,MVM join:2002-07-19 Ireland kudos:1 | reply to justin said by justin:I did ask Nac and they said they could provide an IPv6 address and gateway if we wanted it. Whether easydns will support that or not I don't know. DNS should be the easiest part, just add a AAAA ("quad-A") record. AAAA records can be resolved using any available protocol, so they dont need to be IPv6 enabled themselves for clients to be able to discover what your IPv6 address is (i.e. AAAA records can be resolved over IPv4.)
Since you are familiar with using the ipv6 content on the web, do you know of any popular sites that are also available on ipv6 especially if they put up any info on doing it? Not sure of any sites that have put up a "this is how we enabled IPv6" type guide, but a couple of tech conferences I have been to in recent years have had some presentations from people detailing their journeys to enabling IPv6. Some have been quite smooth, others have had difficulties. I personally found it pretty straight forward to get IPv6 onto some kit that I run at home.
Any of the most popular open source software that has been released in the past several years (apache, postfix/sendmail, bind, etc) should have had IPv6 support built in, and usually it is a simple matter of adding the right configuration directives, or including an IPv6 formatted address into existing configuration directives.
Most of the major firewall packages for the various *nix flavours should also be able to filter IPv6 packets.
And of course you need to have an OS with IPv6 compiled in.
Some sites I know of that are IPv6 enabled, or have an IPv6 "version" (some popular, others maybe not so):
•www.v6.facebook.com •www.freebsd.org •www.he.net •google and youtube (with special ISP-level provisions in place)
he.net also has a number of IPv6 resources available, including a document offering a little advice about what its all about, why, etc:
•»he.net/news/Hurricane_Electric_I···2008.pdf
and a broker service so you can start playing around at home.  |
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