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xenophon

join:2007-09-17

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Best way to test network performance

I just got a Clear fixed modem and have noticed wildly different speed tests depending on the site.

Many show only 1.5Mbps while others show up to 12Mbps.



The best way to test is to stress test with real downloads that can do multiple streams.

I used this download manager for Windows (there are others)...
»download.cnet.com/Internet-Downl···ag=mncol

Change settings to allow 16 streams instead of 8.

Then download a few large files from various sites simultaneously, such as...
»ubuntu-releases.eecs.wsu.edu/6.0···i386.iso
»ubuntu-releases.eecs.wsu.edu/6.0···i386.iso
»iso.linuxquestions.org/download/···Live.iso

Look at the rate of downloads on the download manager panel. Add them up and multiply by 8 to get bits/sec. I have confirmed with this method that I can sustain 10-12Mbps with Clear.

Anyone have a better/quicker method that tests with multiple simultaneous streams?

xenophon

join:2007-09-17

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Here are various tests from my Clear modem. Some show under 2Mbps while others are 14Mbps.



This test of from netbook...


This test is from netbook same time as above doing real download, which comes to over 14Mbps...


This test is from modern laptop in original post...


Other speed test sites also only show 1.5Mbps to 2Mbps. If you are getting low results, try a real download test with multi streams per the first post.


xenophon

join:2007-09-17

Here are tests from same modern laptop this morning...




And this shows 12Mbps on same laptop.


Highest I've seen is 15Mbps with file transfer method even though speedtest.net might only show 2-3Mbps.


xenophon

join:2007-09-17

Has anyone else tried multistream downloads vs speedtest sites? Would like to know if others are having the same issues with speedtest sites.



p110011
I've seen enough Nobama

join:2001-12-29
Oregon City, OR

reply to xenophon
Have you downloaded one single file at 15Mbps? I think your files are coming down around 5Mbps and I've never heard of adding them together like you are.


xenophon

join:2007-09-17

said by p110011:

Have you downloaded one single file at 15Mbps? I think your files are coming down around 5Mbps and I've never heard of adding them together like you are.
On a single file, I tend to get 10-12Mbps max. The highest speed test also shows up to 12Mbps. Downloading multiple files and adding up is a good way to fully stress your connection since the server side can sometimes be the bottleneck.

The odd thing though is why do many speed test sites only show 1.5-3Mbps when others show over 10. I didn't have that issue with cable modem tests. I wonder if WiMAX has a packet issue or MTU thing that isn't compatible with speedtest sites. It can give Clear a bad name if people think they are getting poor performance when they may not be at all.


p110011
I've seen enough Nobama

join:2001-12-29
Oregon City, OR

My tests are pretty consistent across different sites, and I do have my MTU set to 1400.


xenophon

join:2007-09-17

said by p110011:

My tests are pretty consistent across different sites, and I do have my MTU set to 1400.
Give the multistream download test a try in first post. Would be interesting to see if the result is higher performing than speedtest sites.


n0vnm5

join:2006-08-27
Schertz, TX
Reviews:
·Clearwire Wireless

reply to xenophon

said by xenophon:

On a single file, I tend to get 10-12Mbps max. The highest speed test also shows up to 12Mbps. Downloading multiple files and adding up is a good way to fully stress your connection since the server side can sometimes be the bottleneck.

The odd thing though is why do many speed test sites only show 1.5-3Mbps when others show over 10. I didn't have that issue with cable modem tests. I wonder if WiMAX has a packet issue or MTU thing that isn't compatible with speedtest sites. It can give Clear a bad name if people think they are getting poor performance when they may not be at all.
Well, for one thing, the one you selected from Chicago IS SPRINT. You do know that CLEAR and Sprint are pretty much one and the same when it comes to 4G, don't you? I'm positive that CLEAR is pushing more of their bandwidth to Sprint. My EVO has better throughput than my CLEAR modem.

xenophon

join:2007-09-17

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Not convinced that is the reason as there are some other sites that show high performance, others do not. In the end, the real test is actual downloads and from most any site, I can stress multiple downloads and peg it to 12-15Mbps even though some speedtest sites say only 1.5-3Mbps.

The point I'm making here is if you think you're getting poor performance on Clear via speedtest sites, try multiple downloads per the first post. That is the (a) true way to know.

Someone needs to come up with a speedtest method that uses multiple threads.


oldbrit

join:2009-07-08
Dallas, TX

reply to xenophon
The speed and ping tests are consistent with my subjective perception of the speed.

When the browser won't load pages, the tests are crap and when the browser is loading pages quickly, the tests are better.

I have a really strong signal 38db / -48.

I do think that your testing approach is more accurate in lots of situations - but my problem is that, despite a really strong and clean signal, the speed bounces all over the place, and the latency, jitter, and packet loss are constantly changing from excellent one moment to in-the-toilet the next moment - while the cinr and rssi are great and rock solid - which makes the service unusable a lot of the time and extremely frustrating.


oldbrit

join:2009-07-08
Dallas, TX

reply to xenophon
OK. Downloading as you suggest, I'm jumping around between 150KBS and 400KBS total for the three. Oh, there we go... the total of the three is up to 900K -- oops, that lasted about 10 seconds and it's now back to 200'ish.

If I do 5 speedtest.net tests in a row, I typically speeds from 1 to 3MBPS - most of them being less than 2. Occasionally, one test of the 5 gets up in the 4 to almost 5MBPS range - which is really flying around here. It's like stomping the accelerator to get to next red light as fast as possible. - And, my Clear Voice has gone from being excellent to being mostly unusable over the months I've had the service.

After I stopped the downloads:



xenophon

join:2007-09-17

said by oldbrit:

the total of the three is up to 900K

900KBytes/sec = 7.2Mbps

Yeah, you want to add the total Bytes/sec of all downloads and then multiply by 8 to get bits/sec.


CLEAR User

@167.234.12.x

reply to xenophon
My Speedtest scores have a tendancy to be low too ... anywhere from 1Mbs to 6Mbs.

However, when I bittorrent, it usually climbs to the 7Mbs mark fairly quick and then settles around 10Mbs with peaks up to 14Mbs. "Average" rates around the 8Mbs mark after all is said and done. At the same time I check the throughput values as seen by the modem admin screen with values close to what my bittorrent application is reporting. So ... this is well within the advertised "3Mbs to 6Mbs with bursts of up to 10Mbs". So, I'm happy.

I will comment though that lately my Speedtests have been crawling up. For example, this morning I peaked at 11Mbs. with consistent scores around 10Mbs.

"Speedtest" does not seem to be an accurate measurement. A multi file download is really the best.



CLEAR User

@clearwire-wmx.net

I will add one other thing that I have noticed.

When I first got my modem and I went to the Admin view ... I noticed a list of like 20 towers it seemed to see. There were towers listed that had MUCH higher CINR and RSSI values. Did not think anything of it though ...

I was getting CINR of 12 (+-) and RSSI of -76(+-). At the time I was okay, because I was getting peak rates of 6Mbs to 7Mbs ... a far cry from the 1.5Mbs my DSL was giving me.

I then noticed the lovely "Reset" button.

My life changed!

It now only saw the 2 towers that I was aware of that were in my area and my CINR/RSSI change to 28/-65.

My throughput near doubled too with now getting peaks of 11Mbs to 14Mbs.

Today I noticed my modem could see the 2 towers as usual. One had a CINR of 28, the other of 22. For some reason it was locked on the "22" one. Again, I did the reset. That put it back on the "28" one. I did do some Speedtest.net tests and my rates did increase some.

Anyway ... my point. Try reseting your modem ... it may get it to settle on a "better" tower.

I have a Series M.


xenophon

join:2007-09-17

It seems to depend on market for those getting over 10Mbps. Older markets had less backhaul per site (100Mbps backhaul on many sites.

It's possible in your case one site has better backhaul (or less load) than another. But that's interesting you were able to change sites. Will have to check that out.


Micmel

join:2010-04-16
Charlotte, NC

reply to xenophon
Has anyone used ShaperProbe to test speed with?

»www.cc.gatech.edu/~partha/diffpr···obe.html


xenophon

join:2007-09-17

said by Micmel:

Has anyone used ShaperProbe to test speed with?

»www.cc.gatech.edu/~partha/diffpr···obe.html
I just tried it and several other test methods this morning.

Shaper: 5-6Mbps
Speedtest.net: 1.5Mbps
dslreports.com/stest: 1.5Mbps
Actual downloads using Internet Download Manager: 10Mbps+

The speedtest sites are really going to hurt Clear reputation. Many think they are getting less than 2Mbps but in reality are likely getting much better.

I suggest using a download manager instead of speedtest sites. Someone needs to come up with a speedtest method that does multiple streams from multiple sites at once.


davoice

join:2000-08-12
Saxapahaw, NC
Reviews:
·Comporium

said by xenophon:

The speedtest sites are really going to hurt Clear reputation. Many think they are getting less than 2Mbps but in reality are likely getting much better.
Actually they use speedtest.net for their own testing.

I have the Clear Pro service at our church. The Pro service has an SLA that guarantees 80% of stated speed from 8am to 5pm.

»www.clear.com/legal/sla

To claim credits under the SLA, you have to send the speedtest.net results. Tech support will even tell you to use speedtest.net to do the testing if you call in and ask how to claim the SLA.

}Davoice


SysOp

join:2001-04-18
Douglasville, GA
Reviews:
·voip.ms
·T-Mobile US
·Clear Wireless
·Comcast

reply to xenophon

said by xenophon:

said by Micmel:

Has anyone used ShaperProbe to test speed with?

»www.cc.gatech.edu/~partha/diffpr···obe.html
I just tried it and several other test methods this morning.

Shaper: 5-6Mbps
Speedtest.net: 1.5Mbps
dslreports.com/stest: 1.5Mbps
Actual downloads using Internet Download Manager: 10Mbps+

The speedtest sites are really going to hurt Clear reputation. Many think they are getting less than 2Mbps but in reality are likely getting much better.

I suggest using a download manager instead of speedtest sites. Someone needs to come up with a speedtest method that does multiple streams from multiple sites at once.
Dude, same here, when using a download manager I hit 10Mbps+ easy for the first gig or 2 depending on time of day.

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