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Jason Levine
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reply to ITALIAN926

Re: Thats a stretch

What if you are mistakenly identified? You are sued in a mass John Doe lawsuit where you have little chance to defend yourself from having your identity revealed. Once it is revealed, you are given a choice: 1) Settle for $3K or so and admit to being a pirate or 2) Face a long, costly lawsuit that could result in fines topping $1 million.

We really don't know what the false positive rate of this process is because the settlement forces the defendants to keep quiet and the copyright groups (US Copyright Group/RIAA) don't tend to allow third parties in to verify their processes.
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Chubbysumo

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said by Jason Levine:

We really don't know what the false positive rate of this process is because the settlement forces the defendants to keep quiet and the copyright groups (US Copyright Group/RIAA) don't tend to allow third parties in to verify their processes.
Actually, as part of the Discovery process of a civil law suit, the accused can have their own company verify the process in which the accuser gained the information to start the suit. there was a calling on DSLreports a few weeks ago about a company who wanted to verify Dunlap, Grubb, and Weaver's(US copyright group) resources, but since it was not a part of the suit, it could not. so they wanted anyone who was involved to contact them, so they could see if the DGW's info was cour-worthy. no idea what happened to that.

bt

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He's right in the sense that if everyone stopped doing it, the issue would probably go away. If there is no illegal activity going on, it's kind of hard to identify the wrong person as having done it. I really doubt there are many false positives where they got the right person but it was actually a legal activity (other than differences in the laws between jurisdictions).

But hey, it's a total pipe dream to expect that to happen. There's no getting this genie back in the bottle completely.



Jason Levine
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They've sued printers (as in those machines that HP, Epson, etc make), dead people, grandparents (for downloading rap) and a college professor (for an MP3 that had "Usher" in the file name). If this many false positives cropped up, how many were quieted because paying $3,000 to make it go away is easier than spending time and money fighting to clear your name with the threat of possibly losing and bankruptcy?
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chronoss2009
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said by bt:

He's right in the sense that if everyone stopped doing it, the issue would probably go away. If there is no illegal activity going on, it's kind of hard to identify the wrong person as having done it. I really doubt there are many false positives where they got the right person but it was actually a legal activity (other than differences in the laws between jurisdictions).

But hey, it's a total pipe dream to expect that to happen. There's no getting this genie back in the bottle completely.
so lower term rates to 10 years and make it life in person for anything under ten years and open the public domain on the rest

ends meaningless lawsuits , ends need for more taxes and ends hard ships and burdens on people across all lands and puts money back into the rest of the economy, which then means MORE JOBS for everyone rather then the 5 people running the labels and the 5000 lawyers they hire.

P.S. your gonna have a ton more support with a term rate at ten years then one at 95 years plus maybe another 75 or whatever.....

wispalord

join:2007-09-20
Farmington, MO

reply to Jason Levine
and do this to americans that are allready struggling 1g mite as well be 1 million fuck em


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said by bt:

He's right in the sense that if everyone stopped doing it, the issue would probably go away. If there is no illegal activity going on, it's kind of hard to identify the wrong person as having done it. I really doubt there are many false positives where they got the right person but it was actually a legal activity (other than differences in the laws between jurisdictions).

But hey, it's a total pipe dream to expect that to happen. There's no getting this genie back in the bottle completely.
Its not a resonable expectation at all, and quite silly to even mention.

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