 elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | reply to Metatron2008
Re: About time someone helps said by Metatron2008:How about you are supposed to follow the law? That may be foreign to some of you, but if you aren't gonna buy it, don't download it. why follow an unjust law? enough people say screw the law and you cant sue/arrest them all |
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| said by elios:said by Metatron2008:How about you are supposed to follow the law? That may be foreign to some of you, but if you aren't gonna buy it, don't download it. why follow an unjust law? enough people say screw the law and you cant sue/arrest them all how exactly is supporting artists or not downloading unjust? Get over your entitlement issues, people like you are everything that's wrong with society today. |
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Fort Wayne, IN
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| said by Metatron2008:how exactly is supporting artists or not downloading unjust? Supporting the artist? Hahaha that's funny. Ask Winston Groom how much of of the 3% of Forest Gump's proceeds he ever received for writing it. Or the Tolkien estate that was contracted to receive 7.5% of the profit from the LOTR trilogy that took in over $1b domestically alone. Then you'll find out how well the artists are being supported by sales. |
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| said by cdru:said by Metatron2008:how exactly is supporting artists or not downloading unjust? Hahaha that's funny. It's only about as funny as the average pirate excuse, so keep laughing. |
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| said by Metatron2008:It's only about as funny as the average pirate excuse, so keep laughing. You're right. The average pirate excuse holds as much water as the studios claiming that pirating "hurts the artist". They were hurting far earlier in the process then when the pirates put it on the internet. It's all along the same lines as "Think of the children" and "help prevent terrorism". It really has nothing to do with it at all but it makes a good sound byte. |
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| Stealing doesn't help though, no matter what corporations do. I hate it when pirates think they are fighting corporations by acting just like them or worse. |
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| or worse you say.. I ask what you mean by that. what can be worse than acting like the evil *IAA? seriously. how can you get worse than either of those industries? |
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| said by FBGuy:or worse you say.. I ask what you mean by that. what can be worse than acting like the evil *IAA? seriously. how can you get worse than either of those industries? Large scale criminal operations selling thousands of cheap pirated goods. Of all the things I say about pirates they at least know what to pay for stolen property (0$) |
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FBGuyyippee ki yayPremium
join:2005-03-19 | if you think the piracy in the United States is bad, which it isn't, you should check out the insane piracy networks in place in the middle east and asia. it makes p2p look peaceful. The criminals are the people who steal and make a living on it. |
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 jhboricuaExMod 2000-01
join:2000-06-06
Minneapolis, MN | reply to Metatron2008
said by Metatron2008:Stealing doesn't help though, no matter what corporations do. Then again by the same law you are so adamant about, it is not stealing.
said by Metatron2008:I hate it when pirates think they are fighting corporations by acting just like them or worse. Then maybe the corporations should have though of that before paying for legislation that made copyright a joke and continued to erode people's fair use of works. They created the 'perceived' problem.
Besides, if the history of this country teaches you something is that sometimes unfair laws deserve to be broken.
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 GlobalMindDomino Dude, POWER Systems GuyPremium
join:2001-10-29
Hollywood, FL | reply to Metatron2008
said by Metatron2008:Stealing doesn't help though, no matter what corporations do. Well ok first, it isn't stealing. Certainly not legally.
Second, when all of their precious award shows are held at the VFW hall with everyone wearing clothes from WalMart, then we can talk.
The big talent and the big studios still get paid, TONS. All at the expense of the people actually doing the damn work behind the scenes. Pay Tom Cruise $250k for a picture instead of $20 mil and then we'll talk.
I buy what I want, I listen to what I want. I don't download "illegally." I know several bands I am a fan of, including RUSH have said likely no more studio albums because it costs too much and the industry just isn't supporting it.
Of course those who are bound to get the money still will. And bands who actually know how to play live will tour and make more that way then they ever will releasing records under labels who have since their inception existed by profiting off of the backs of artists they pay pennies compared to what the label keeps, just so the artist gets their taste of what it feels like to make it.
Please don't defend the fscking industry execs the labels and the whole corrupt BS system OK? There's just no point. It's indefensible.
Want to defend copyright? Fine, howabout reverting the limits back to what they were intended and not extended to 1000 years past the life of the last living relative of the artist which is basically what it is now with the labels being the ones "owning" the copyrights.
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Sammer
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Canonsburg, PA | said by GlobalMind:Want to defend copyright? Fine, howabout reverting the limits back to what they were intended and not extended to 1000 years past the life of the last living relative of the artist which is basically what it is now with the labels being the ones "owning" the copyrights. While your remarks are more than a bit over the top there were no corporate copyrights originally. They were intended for authors and artists who are actual living breathing human beings and not legal entities known as corporations. As the Declaration of Independence states, individual humans beings have certain inalienable rights endowed by the Creator. Individual Copyrights may allow artists to pursue happiness. Corporations are not human (they have no mortal soul) and the only rights they have or should have are given (and can be taken away) by government. So if anyone views corporate copyrights or any copyrights extending more than fifty years as an abomination of justice, I certainly see your point. |
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GlobalMindDomino Dude, POWER Systems GuyPremium
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Hollywood, FL | said by Sammer:said by GlobalMind:Want to defend copyright? Fine, howabout reverting the limits back to what they were intended and not extended to 1000 years past the life of the last living relative of the artist which is basically what it is now with the labels being the ones "owning" the copyrights. While your remarks are more than a bit over the top there were no corporate copyrights originally. They were intended for authors and artists who are actual living breathing human beings and not legal entities known as corporations. As the Declaration of Independence states, individual humans beings have certain inalienable rights endowed by the Creator. Individual Copyrights may allow artists to pursue happiness. Corporations are not human (they have no mortal soul) and the only rights they have or should have are given (and can be taken away) by government. So if anyone views corporate copyrights or any copyrights extending more than fifty years as an abomination of justice, I certainly see your point. You are correct and I am well aware of what the original intent of copyright was.
However, it's been bastardized into what we have today, driven not by the actual artists but by the corporate interests who control the music business. Not all the artists "own" the copyrights to their music.
As to length, the term was originally set, and it's been gradually changed over the years. In the cases of copyrights being owned by the corporation, that "life" of the artist becomes essentially forever.
You consider my comments over the top, but I know there's those who absolutely support what I've said.
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