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TheThing

join:2012-08-10
kudos:1
reply to f0rtys3ven

Re: League of Legends

my tolerance for insults/flames from teammates is 1.

Once there are more than 1 rage/flames, I mute my whole team, and pretend they are bots



Eumaeus

join:2009-12-10
Yorktown, VA
reply to Archivis

Are there any 'golden rules' on early game item purchase order? I'm sure it varies by role, but the number of options within each role still leaves a newbie a pretty undecided.



Jobbie
Keep It Simple
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join:2010-08-24
Mexico
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It really depends on what role/champion you are playing that game, the new store does a pretty decent job at showing you the best options.

Before this big patch boots + health pots was the opening meta for many champions.
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Judge a man by the trials of his shield, not the empty reaping of his sword.



f0rtys3ven
47

join:2011-09-01
Lansing, MI
reply to Eumaeus

starting items

adc / ranged auto attacker
Dorans Blad (use for heavy early harass or when u have a sustain support)
Long sword w/ 2 health pots. (More regen if you aren't with a sustain support and want some staying power + in 400g you get a vamp scepter)

solo lanes
2 wards / lots of pots (mix of mana and health for preference)
Ferie charm / ward / pots (builds into early chalice)
bottle / wards / pots (lots of sustain bottle is better if you need more than one run of consumeables)
cloth armor / 5 pots (get if going against ad)
boots / 3 pots (kindof meh now but a possibility if u need to dodge skill shots)

jungle
machete / 5 pots - only option really

support
1 pink / 2 greens / ferie charm / 2 pots (takes 2 points in starting gold)
bottle / wards
all wards/ pots (get a pink, good if you want to invade and need to cover your buffs)

First backs

adc
dorans blade (not neccessary if you started with it)
vamp scepter
boots (you really can wait now due to boots not adding that much MS)

support
gp10 (philo stone/kages pick) - get if useful to you
ruby crystal - best item in game builds into everything
dorans shield (want to be tanky)
WARDS!!! (dont forget these)

solo lanes
wards (at least one)
dorans ring / dorans blade /dorans shield are effecient if you need em
haunting guise (mpen / health / ap good for casters w/out mana issues)
chalce (mr for against ap / mana regen for casters/ ap bruisers)
Ap/armor item (forgot name its new / get against ad mid if you are ap or are rushing zhonyas)
gianst belt (to get tanky)
brutalizer (bruiser looking for dmg)

jungle
razor (for auto attacking junglers)
spirit stone ( for ablities or for the upgrade)
boots (faster ganks / jungle movement)
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I though I had it all mapped out.
But I guess not.
This fucking black cloud still follows me around.
Its time to exercise these demons.
These mother fuckers are doing jumping jacks now.


Sprakk

join:2009-10-01
reply to Archivis

»quickfind.kassad.in/profile/na/sprakk/

3 Years 3 Months 1 Day

Oh god, so much time spent...

LoL probably up there with WoW in terms of amount of time wasted for me...



Eumaeus

join:2009-12-10
Yorktown, VA
reply to Archivis

So after 3 days of losing to 3's vs. intermediate bots, my wife, friend and I (all new to LoL) learn that intermediate bots have 15 points of mastery, 16 runes, a tier 2 quintessence and a passive bonus to gold gain.

In the grand scheme of things, are these bots supposed to be moderately difficult or are we just underperforming?

I know a lot of the snowballing can be credited to early feeding since we're still learning character abilities and dying to things we could've better anticipated if we knew the opponent's skill set.
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Eumaeus, Guardian/Feral Druid
GM - Lux ex Tenebris - Sargeras | Alliance
[16/16N] [1/16H] MVS/HoF/ToES



f0rtys3ven
47

join:2011-09-01
Lansing, MI

They will feel OP especially on intermediate until you have understanding / runes / masteries. They will score perfect combos pretty much every time you get in range so you really have to know how to beat champs mechanically. And if you don't have runes they do have an early game advantage as well.

Annie bot still carries bot games.



Kristopher
Tarquin
Premium
join:2002-10-11
Tyrinaria
kudos:4
reply to Sprakk

How the hell do you use that form?



Goggalor
Psychonaut
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join:2009-06-09
Your Mind!
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reply to f0rtys3ven

said by f0rtys3ven:

Annie bot still carries bot games.




Eumaeus

join:2009-12-10
Yorktown, VA
reply to f0rtys3ven

We had a Ziggs/Leona bot pair that was just completely obliterating us. Ziggs would drop a mine field behind us then Leona would charge-stun & burst while Ziggs used a satchel knockback to blow us into the mine field and follow up with his ult. So very dead.

We don't have any runes yet really either. Have been spending IP to unlock a few characters until we inevitably start handing them our $.

Switching to just going against other players tonight instead of just getting wiped by intermediate bots.
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Eumaeus, Guardian/Feral Druid
GM - Lux ex Tenebris - Sargeras | Alliance
[16/16N] [1/16H] MVS/HoF/ToES



Jobbie
Keep It Simple
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join:2010-08-24
Mexico
kudos:5

This is mine:

»quickfind.kassad.in/profile/na/JobbieSC/

Almost 2 years on this account.
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Judge a man by the trials of his shield, not the empty reaping of his sword.



f0rtys3ven
47

join:2011-09-01
Lansing, MI
reply to Archivis

Other players aren't as mechanically sound but they bait and will bush camp random shit and go extremely aggressive lvl 1 / 2.

Play safe and just poop on mistakes and you should do ok.



Kristopher
Tarquin
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join:2002-10-11
Tyrinaria
kudos:4
reply to Jobbie

How do I sign up to see that shit? I went to the site, put in my info, and nothing happens. It's all screwy looking.
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Play DSLr Mafia: »Pub Games



Goggalor
Psychonaut
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join:2009-06-09
Your Mind!
kudos:2
reply to Eumaeus

said by Eumaeus:

We don't have any runes yet really either. Have been spending IP to unlock a few characters until we inevitably start handing them our $.

As others will recommend to you, do not purchase tier 1 or 2 runes. They will become obsolete once you hit level 21, since you will be able to purchase tier 3 runes.


Jobbie
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Mexico
kudos:5
reply to Kristopher

said by Kristopher:

How do I sign up to see that shit? I went to the site, put in my info, and nothing happens. It's all screwy looking.

I just put my account name on the link and pulled my data.
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Judge a man by the trials of his shield, not the empty reaping of his sword.


Kristopher
Tarquin
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join:2002-10-11
Tyrinaria
kudos:4

Here's what my screen looks like. There's no "enter" button, and if I hit enter on the keyboard, nothing happens. There's only a contact us button at the bottom.
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Jobbie
Keep It Simple
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join:2010-08-24
Mexico
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Try this:

»quickfind.kassad.in/profile/na/Kenobles/

Play Cait more



Kristopher
Tarquin
Premium
join:2002-10-11
Tyrinaria
kudos:4

Nope. I get all sorts of gibberish. I'm assuming it's all messed up since my work computer is forced to use Explorer for web browsing, an old version at that. Oh well.
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Jobbie
Keep It Simple
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join:2010-08-24
Mexico
kudos:5

That is weird I am using chrome and your profile loads just fine for me.



Kristopher
Tarquin
Premium
join:2002-10-11
Tyrinaria
kudos:4
reply to Jobbie

Email me a pic of the results, if you don't mind.

Oh, and in your absence, I have become the cait master. Unless i have a support nid from BR who takes all my farm and kills. Then I have trouble until late game when I CARRY ANYWAY!

That happened last night. I became solo cait mid game with no farm, and no kills. I went to any lane I could find and stole farm. I became jungle cait. I controlled dragon myself. By the end of the game, I came back with 296 farm and a full build. Almost a positive score, but it was a BR team, so everyone except me was in double digits for all 3 categories. They play to kill, and only to kill.
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Jobbie
Keep It Simple
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join:2010-08-24
Mexico
kudos:5

That sounds awesome, we need to get some games on the weekend to try it out! Send me a PM on skype so we can do this.

Also email sent.
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Judge a man by the trials of his shield, not the empty reaping of his sword.



Archivis
Your Daddy
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join:2001-11-26
Earth
kudos:19
reply to Eumaeus

said by Eumaeus:

So after 3 days of losing to 3's vs. intermediate bots, my wife, friend and I (all new to LoL) learn that intermediate bots have 15 points of mastery, 16 runes, a tier 2 quintessence and a passive bonus to gold gain.

In the grand scheme of things, are these bots supposed to be moderately difficult or are we just underperforming?

I know a lot of the snowballing can be credited to early feeding since we're still learning character abilities and dying to things we could've better anticipated if we knew the opponent's skill set.

What level are you? I haven't played in a long time, but the last time we played against intermediate bots, we shit all over them every single time.
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A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. -MLK


Archivis
Your Daddy
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join:2001-11-26
Earth
kudos:19

Unless you're up against Annie. That bitch is retarded.



Jobbie
Keep It Simple
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join:2010-08-24
Mexico
kudos:5

Annie bot cheats. She drops all her stuff on you in ~1 sec.



Eumaeus

join:2009-12-10
Yorktown, VA
reply to Archivis

We're just level 6/7 since it's only been a couple nights since we've started. We were completely winning the early game but always seem to get some deaths after lvl 6 to ultimate combos. Just the kinda stuff you learn to look out for once you know more character's ability sets really.



Jobbie
Keep It Simple
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join:2010-08-24
Mexico
kudos:5

Add "JobbieSC" to your friends list, I have a low level account at that range, we can get on skype a talk some of the basics and advanced tactics and get you guys started.
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Judge a man by the trials of his shield, not the empty reaping of his sword.



Kristopher
Tarquin
Premium
join:2002-10-11
Tyrinaria
kudos:4

I forget my low levels name (panpizza maybe?), but am always down to play and help someone build up.

@Eumaeus: Try to get out of the Bot games soon. They don't play like real people do. Go into matches with other people, get shit on, and learn that way. It's no biggie. If someone rages, just click next to their name in chat and mute them. It's fun!

@Jobbie: This weekend I'm installing new flooring at the house. I won't be available. Will probably be on tonight for a game or two.
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Jobbie
Keep It Simple
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join:2010-08-24
Mexico
kudos:5

Panpizza is correct, I will be late tonight hope to catch you on.



Blockfire
Sarcasm is my native tongue

join:2010-02-11
Wichita, KS
kudos:1
reply to Archivis

made it to bronze 1, people are still bad. 2-5-20 as Leona with 33 kills total on our team and I'm the bad one, lol.



Goggalor
Psychonaut
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join:2009-06-09
Your Mind!
kudos:2

said by Blockfire:

made it to bronze 1, people are still bad. 2-5-20 as Leona with 33 kills total on our team and I'm the bad one, lol.

Gah, Block! Don't you know that supports are supposed to go positive in their K/D ratio?!