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F15Loader

join:2010-07-10
Oregon, OH

Static Phone and Terrible HD...Zero Customer Service

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+ 95 HD Channels
I dont know if this is the appropriate forum for this but I HAVE to air this somewhere.

About a week ago a woman came buy and talked to us about Uverse. I had heard about it so I figured I'd give it a shot. I liked the idea of 4 DVR channels, watching DVR on any telvision...etc.

My wife and I grilled the poor girl and asked every question under the sun. The young lady assured us that there would be no initial cost to us, that we would get the U300 plus 95 HD channels as well as some movie channels and an additional box for my sons room. She also was nice enough to give us a 50 dollar gift card.

Good enough, lets do it.

The woman left and we reviewed our paper work. Not good...we had a 29 dollar fee on the paper work. My wife walked down the way and asked about the fee. The lady stated that she threw in the 50 dollar gift card in order to cover that fee. My wife, still unhappy, relented and said "OK".

About 2 days later we get a call from ATT Uverse telling us that they cant port our number over. I immediately call my carrier and tell them that I want that number ported over. No problem...give it 24 to 48 hours.

I call ATT back and tell them the same.

The next morning we receive a call from ATT and they leave a voice mail...they cant port our phone. I call them back and tell them thats been handled.

That night I get a call from ATT telling me the phone cannot be ported. My wife answers and explains that its been handled.

The next day...same thing...a call in the AM and then a call at 9:30 at night. Finally we tell tham that if this is going to be a problem we will canx the order.

Yesterday...7-9, the installer gets here. Nice enough guy. We get to talking about why I'm switching and I mention that Uverse has more HD channels. He looks at me and says..."You wanted HD? I dont have that on my invoice."

He does his thing and gets everything installed. He calls Tier II on my phone and sets up my HD. First month free...after that 10 bucks a month. Wait a second....I was quoted 135 a month with 95 HD channels.

Anyway, the HD comes up and my gawd....thats HD? Pixilation and ghosting is terrible. So bad in fact that my 13 yo son asked the tech if that was HD.

I decide that maybe I need to get used to it since the colors do appear more vibrant on my 46" Panny plasma.

The tech leaves and I call the wife to tell her about the 10 dollar/month bait and switch. I pick up the phone to make the call and I swear its raining inside my phone. My wife answers and comments on the static.

I then tell her about the additional 10 doallr fee for HD. Oh boy...not good. She could have dealt with the crappy HD, we probably could of fixed the phone, but she will not be bamboozled out of her money...LOL

She calls ATT and asks why the agreement was not adhered to. She then asks to speak to a supervisor and she was told "No"!

All in all, this has been an absolutly terrible experience. I will let everyone in this area know what happened and tell them not to get this service. Thankfully I didnt canx my other service. They'll be out monday to hook me back up.


SECraft

@ameritech.net

You have 2 issues.

1. You were misled by a door 2 door agent, who is a contractor more than likely, about the HD pricing. the U300 does not come with HD, only "included" in the U450, other than that, its $10 a month.

2. Your installer did you no favors. If the picture is that bad, and the phone is static, he did not install it properly. I have the service, and my HD as well as SD are phenomenal. I have no static on my VOIP either. Contact Matt or one of the other Tier 2 reps on this forum and get a repair ticket in. Most of the time if you call in you get a repair that day.


F15Loader

join:2010-07-10
Oregon, OH

said by SECraft :

You have 2 issues.

1. You were misled by a door 2 door agent, who is a contractor more than likely, about the HD pricing.
You are correct. A contractor that ATT hired. A contractor that ATT should be dealing with instead of telling my wife that there is no way to rectify this situation...pack the modem up and send it back to ATT via UPS. If they're willing to give up a $1644 contract over 110 bucks...so be it.

said by SECraft :

2. Your installer did you no favors. If the picture is that bad, and the phone is static, he did not install it properly. I have the service, and my HD as well as SD are phenomenal. I have no static on my VOIP either. Contact Matt or one of the other Tier 2 reps on this forum and get a repair ticket in. Most of the time if you call in you get a repair that day.
At this point it is no longer about the quality of the HD/SD or the phone service. Customer services unwillingness to work with us is the deal breaker.


trparky
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We have a number of Tier-2 Technical Support Agents roam these very forums. I will message one of them and let them know about this thread. It may not be until Monday or Tuesday that you receive a response from them.
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trparky
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I messaged Matt ( mmay149q See Profile, one of the Tier-2 Technicians) about this thread. Once he sees it and takes ownership of your issue, he will get them solved; it's what he does best. I asked him to make some magic happen for you.

Check his site profile out. He's had a lot of people say that he's solved their problems including my own problems.
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trparky
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In the mean time, can you check out this thread...
»U-Verse Realtime v1.3.0.0

Download the utility and post some screenshots of the program's interface. That will allow us fellow forum users to see what's going on in your line.
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F15Loader

join:2010-07-10
Oregon, OH

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Thanks for taking an interest in this thread, trparky. Unfortunately I dont think any amount of technical help is going to aid this issue. My wife is pretty miffed about being deceived as well as the crummy customer service she received when she called in.

At any rate...I'm curious to see what the app will tell about my connection. I spoke with a neighbor, who's SD television looks better than my HD, and he said there has to be a line issue. He retired from the local Bell so I'm assuming he knows what he's talking about. So please, take a look and let me know what may be askew.

Thanks


trparky
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Two of your coax connections are bad, I can see that from the screenshots you provided. If you are dropping data on the coax connections due to a bad connector somewhere that can cause issues with freezing picture, bad picture, dropped sound, etc. Be sure to mention this to Matt.
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KookyMan

join:2001-09-09
Clio, MI

reply to F15Loader
I agree with the bamboozled by the door-2-door seller. I don't know whats going on, but my installer who was here told me a couple of horror stories about promises that are being made to customers that have absolutely NO basis in reality.

The $50 gift card is whats available on the website promo, at least in my area. She didn't throw it on to cover anything, she just said that to shut you up. It could be useful as a sales point, but it should be specifically mentioned, like: "There is a $29 activation fee for xxx (even my install had that same fee), but you will also be receiving a $50 gift card as a promotion to help offset that fee."

I heard that there was actually a customer promised a new XBox 360 if he signed up. wtf? There needs to be some accountability for these sellers.

I also agree with the tech did you no favors. Again, from talking with my tech, there are two kinds of installs. Those done properly, which means the tech knows what they are doing, and actually make sure the install is done correctly, and the ones who don't care and will get you "installed" to the point of operational enough to be considered installed, and will move on in the grind of the day. One thing my tech did say is its company policy to replace all coax connector ends on an install, even if they are new. Did your installer do it? If not, they broke policy and if that is the cause of your problem I'd be demanding some credit to the account for an improper install.
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ILpt4U
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said by KookyMan:

One thing my tech did say is its company policy to replace all coax connector ends on an install, even if they are new. Did your installer do it? If not, they broke policy
I guess your tech has a different set of "company policies"

All ends have to be properly terminated Compression Fittings. All barrel-connects (including wall plates) must be the "blue" center variety, all splitters must be Holland HPNA splitters

A properly terminated Compression fitting is a properly terminated Compression fitting

KookyMan

join:2001-09-09
Clio, MI

Yea. She told me that policy (possibly local by the sounds of it) is to re-terminate all coax; Be it cable or wall plates. Said that it is something that is checked by QA and they look for the company colors/types.
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anon4life

@qwest.net

reply to F15Loader
Let me ask you about the phone porting issue, who was your original phone provider? The only reason why I asked is because sometimes without manual interaction from yourself talking to your original provider can cause U-Verse not to port the number. Also, the reason for multiple phone calls is because when there's an issue with the order someone calls, if no one picks up, they leave a message and notes it into the system and someone will call back again the next day or so (could be annoying when you already called back and informed them that it's already being handled since they're using 2 different systems to track what's going on).

Also, each garage has different policies set in place in terms of how a install should be done. I've seen policies where they have to replace the ends even if it looks really good and terminated correctly, they still gotta do it and I've seen them where it makes no mention about replacing the ends but making sure they're using the company provided splitters (the splitters you get from Radio Shack and from your Dish Network provider doesn't work with U-Verse).

And yes, going off the screen shot, you have HPNA issues so the installer didn't actually taken the time to check to make sure everything is correct.

As for the static on the phones, are you using a cordless or corded phone? And is it connected separately from where the gateway is located? If it's connected separately from where the gateway is located, try connecting it directly to the back of the gateway into the Phone Line 1/2 port (if the gateway is standing upright, it'll be second from the top, it's highlighted in White) and see if you're still getting static. It's preferred to use a corded phone but using a cordless phone is fine if that's all you have, just make sure you connect the wireless base up (this is probably a no brainier though). If you still get static on your phone after connecting directly to the gateway, then look at the white label on your gateway, on that white label it'll give you the model number, serial number, etc. Next to the model number you should see the letters RV next to it. If you don't, then you might want to look into getting your gateway replaced as those without the RV "flag" next to it is known to cause static on the phone line, even more so if the lines themselves (the last mile copper running from the DSLAM to your house) is perfectly clean (or within reason). If the gateway does have the RV flag then a tech would need to do a few more troubleshooting then, only then, he would get to contact Tier 2 for a ticket place to disable something within the gateway which should solve the static issue (then again, most of the time, I like to point the blame on the lines somewhere as that would be your determining factor).

Now, if you're getting crystal clear sound on your phone when plugged directly to the gateway but very poor quality at the original location, then it's something to do with your inside phone lines that needs to be resolved (and please make sure you're not using any DSL filters as that's normally your number 1 problems for voice quality on the U-Verse phone service).

Welp, I think I've provided with enough information for right now.


F15Loader

join:2010-07-10
Oregon, OH

The phone porting wasnt that big of an issue for me. It was the incessant, late night phone calls from ATT that were just a PITA. It seems that they'd try to port the number and if it didnt work they'd call me. I mean, why else would they call in the AM, speak with someone and then call back in the PM? They left one message out of 4 or 5 calls.

As for the static on the phone lines...I did as you suggested and the phone didnt work at all. As a matter of fact I got a "check Line" error on my phone. It is a cordless but I assume it should have worked?

I did look on the gateway and I dont see the RV you refer to. However, by the looks of the gateway, its pretty old. It's obviously been around the block a few times...LOL. Its a 2-Wire 3800HGV-B.

Ya know, the more I discuss this, the more I'm amazed at how really bad this whole situation is. Lets a take a look...LOL.

-Sales rep lied to get us to sign up
-Installer jacked up the install
-Customer service rep refuses to adhere to deal laid out by lying sales rep
-Customer service rep tells the wife that she cannot speak to a supervisor. Pack up the equipment and send it back if she is not satisfied with the service.

The lies the sales rep told alone are enough to send me over the top...I still hear her saying..."Do you have a high definition TV? Well with this you'll get all of these channels plus 95 HD channels. Youre only gettin [such and such] with your current provider." and writing it on that paper.

It kills me...LOL..you'd think as an LEO you'd be hip to the scams out there...but I guess not, I really feel like I've been scammed.

Eh well...A lot of people at work are waiting for this to hit their area. I guess I'll just let em know how it worked out for me and let them decide.



Jon
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join:2001-01-20
Lisle, IL
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reply to ILpt4U

said by ILpt4U:

said by KookyMan:

One thing my tech did say is its company policy to replace all coax connector ends on an install, even if they are new. Did your installer do it? If not, they broke policy
I guess your tech has a different set of "company policies"

All ends have to be properly terminated Compression Fittings. All barrel-connects (including wall plates) must be the "blue" center variety, all splitters must be Holland HPNA splitters

A properly terminated Compression fitting is a properly terminated Compression fitting
They didn't touch my coax fittings, which are just crappy screw on ones from home depot that I put on my self eons ago. They work fine though. They did cut off all the ends of my cat 5 connections and do them over again whether they needed them or not.

chris123

join:2002-07-23
Highland, IN
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reply to F15Loader
F15,

Give the customer service reps here a chance to work on this. They'll take good care of you.

No, I don't work for them..
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reply to F15Loader
Stop calling AT&T. Work through all these problems with the tierII guys on here. They WILL get your problems fixed. I've seen so many people with problems similar to yours actually get fixed thanks to them.

Just be patient and you will be very well taken care of.

And as far as the door2door sales guy, I'm sorry not much can be done about those idiots. I'm not sure but I don't even think they get training. Personally I slam the door in their face because of all the horror stories I've heard about the liars.



anon4life

@qwest.net

reply to F15Loader
Yeah, doesn't matter if it's a cordless phone as long as we're connecting it to the correct port. I've seen it where sometimes you'll have to reboot the gateway just to get it to working sometimes, though. Or it's also possible that the inner pairs (Line 1) is reversed (meaning it's the outer pairs (Line 2)) and so the tech did something different. In either case, sounds like a bad install.

Also, pro tip, take a look at the first 4 numbers of the gateway's serial number. First 2 number tells you the week it was built and the last 2 numbers is the year. For an example, if the serial number starts with 3208, then the gateway was built in the 32nd week of the year 2008. That will give you a good ideal how old the gateway is.



mmay149q
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join:2009-03-05
Dallas, TX
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reply to F15Loader

said by F15Loader:

Thanks for taking an interest in this thread, trparky. Unfortunately I dont think any amount of technical help is going to aid this issue. My wife is pretty miffed about being deceived as well as the crummy customer service she received when she called in.

At any rate...I'm curious to see what the app will tell about my connection. I spoke with a neighbor, who's SD television looks better than my HD, and he said there has to be a line issue. He retired from the local Bell so I'm assuming he knows what he's talking about. So please, take a look and let me know what may be askew.

Thanks
Hello, this is Matt with U-Verse Tier II Technical Support. I want to resolve your issue as quickly as possible. Please send your account information to uversecare@att.com I'd like to get your issue resolved immediately.

Thanks, Matt

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Tanshin

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reply to F15Loader
Just to put in my word for Matt, I can say that he has been nothing but exceptional for me. Our installer came and was unsure if we could even get service because of the lines in the area and our distance, yet after a fair amount of tweaking and calls to line techs, we have cleaned up our service so well that at around 3000 ft from the VRAD we get clean, excellent quality, 2HD/SD streams (which is relatively unheard of for U-verse at this distance).


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