 | Cost per Gigabyte? Hi,
I have gone quite abit over this month bandwidth wise, and I am wondering how much shaw will rip me off per gigabyte.
I am on the Extreme plan.
I can't find it anywhere on their site.
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 | Shaw does not currently charge for overages. AFAIK there have been no announcements of changes to this policy. They'll likely (if they catch you) just read you the limits and ask that you keep under them in the future (assuming this is your first offence). |
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 FTG @shawcable.net | reply to nitrogif There is no extra cost for the first time you go over but if it happens for many months at a time they will either turn your internet account off or make you go to a business account. |
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| reply to nitrogif If they've flagged you for high bandwidth usage (that's a big IF, as they only seem to care about the heaviest users with the highest upload usage), and you go over the limit several months in a row, you'll get emails and phone calls.
If you keep going over even after having receive phone calls, then and only then will they begin cutting you off. |
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| reply to FTG said by FTG:There is no extra cost for the first time you go over but if it happens for many months at a time they will either turn your internet account off or make you go to a business account. Business account, or next higher consumer tier? I would think next tier but that's more a guess than anything. |
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 XT0RTS3x, Drugs, War join:2001-07-28 Edmonton, AB 1 edit | If he/she is pushing a lot of bandwidth per month, they will more or less bump that person to a business tier service. In Shaw's little world, they believe that a residential customer should not be using the same amount of bandwidth as a small business would generate and thus must be running various servers to accumulate a high number from month to month or have a lot of users on the same connection.
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| When Extreme was the top tier, I could see that a Business account is the next step. But now that there is Warp and Nitro, a person can easily make the case that they shouldn't be pushed into a Business account.
Unless, of course, the person's downloading exceeds those tiers as well... |
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| said by ErikRP:When Extreme was the top tier, I could see that a Business account is the next step. But now that there is Warp and Nitro, a person can easily make the case that they shouldn't be pushed into a Business account. Unless, of course, the person's downloading exceeds those tiers as well... Some don't need the 25x2 or 100x5 lines, they just need more bandwidth. Making the switch to a business 15x1 line would be more reasonable if they just wanted more bandwidth and were happy with the speeds. Warp and Nitro don't offer that much more bandwidth anyways. |
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1 edit | said by rustydusty:Some don't need the 25x2 or 100x5 lines, they just need more bandwidth. Making the switch to a business 15x1 line would be more reasonable if they just wanted more bandwidth and were happy with the speeds. Warp and Nitro don't offer that much more bandwidth anyways. SOHO Xtreme-I gives a whole 15GB per month LESS than regular Xtreme-I now. |
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| said by pfak:said by rustydusty:Some don't need the 25x2 or 100x5 lines, they just need more bandwidth. Making the switch to a business 15x1 line would be more reasonable if they just wanted more bandwidth and were happy with the speeds. Warp and Nitro don't offer that much more bandwidth anyways. SOHO Xtreme-I gives a whole 15GB per month LESS than regular Xtreme-I now. Nevermind then. Switch to Teksavvy if you want real bandwidth I guess. |
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| said by rustydusty:said by pfak:said by rustydusty:Some don't need the 25x2 or 100x5 lines, they just need more bandwidth. Making the switch to a business 15x1 line would be more reasonable if they just wanted more bandwidth and were happy with the speeds. Warp and Nitro don't offer that much more bandwidth anyways. SOHO Xtreme-I gives a whole 15GB per month LESS than regular Xtreme-I now. Nevermind then. Switch to Teksavvy if you want real bandwidth I guess. Or stay away from Torrents. I'm not sure if someone could suck that much bandwidth from web downloading other than torrents. Usenet definitely wouldn't be the problem. |
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| said by ErikRP:Or stay away from Torrents. I'm not sure if someone could suck that much bandwidth from web downloading other than torrents. Usenet definitely wouldn't be the problem. I've never torrented before, but I imagine it would eat a lot of bandwidth. If I was to plan on torrenting a lot, I'd switch to TS and go for one of their unlimited plans. |
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1 edit | said by rustydusty:said by ErikRP:Or stay away from Torrents. I'm not sure if someone could suck that much bandwidth from web downloading other than torrents. Usenet definitely wouldn't be the problem. I've never torrented before, but I imagine it would eat a lot of bandwidth. If I was to plan on torrenting a lot, I'd switch to TS and go for one of their unlimited plans. Actually I was mostly responding to the OP. If he was able to go over the cap by so much, I'm assuming torrents. It's rare for people to download so much with regular internet traffic.
Edit: before someone jumps all over me and tells me how it is possible to download over 100GB (or whatever the Extreme cape is now), I said RARE, not impossible... |
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 dfloer join:2003-06-12 Burnaby, BC | reply to ErikRP said by ErikRP:Or stay away from Torrents. I'm not sure if someone could suck that much bandwidth from web downloading other than torrents. Usenet definitely wouldn't be the problem. Yeah, because Steam never had promotions on games that cause 70+GB of downloads in a week. Nothing like that. There certainly can't be any legitimate reason for someone to use more than like 42MB of transfer in a month. Anything past that an they must be doing something bad... |
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| said by dfloer: Yeah, because Steam never had promotions on games that cause 70+GB of downloads in a week. Nothing like that. There certainly can't be any legitimate reason for someone to use more than like 42MB of transfer in a month. Anything past that an they must be doing something bad... Oh get over yourself. I never said it was impossible, and I never once entered the legitimate versus illegitimate use debate. Don't put words in my mouth
And with a cap of 125GB a month, I still say it would be difficult under most circumstances for a typical user to exceed 125GB in a month, let alone go "quite abit [sic]" over that limit, as the OP stated he had done. Difficult, especially month over month, but not impossible. There are all sorts of ways to do it that don't involve torrents but I would argue that more often than not if a user was to exceed their cap it is more likely to be because of torrents than any other reason.
I'm not calling torrents bad, just calling them as they are: tools to download stuff. People who like to download a lot of stuff use more bandwidth.
Go start an argument somewhere else. |
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 | I watch alot of IPTV from various different feeds and it eats bandwidth up. |
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 | said by netwerk007:I watch alot of IPTV from various different feeds and it eats bandwidth up. As do I, along with a decent amount of torrenting and have yet to go over my limit. 100GB for the Xtreme package is a reasonable price and more than enough data "cap" on a month to month basis.
Was already said, at this time worst thing they would do at this point is call you and let you know what the limit is and maybe encourage you to jump up to the next tier of service. |
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 vonsenJust BecausePremium join:2005-01-06 | reply to dfloer said by dfloer:There certainly can't be any legitimate reason for someone to use more than like 42MB of transfer in a month. Anything past that an they must be doing something bad... There are a lot of legitimate reasons why someone might use a large amount of bandwidth. Anyone who claims otherwise just has a poor imagination. IPTV alone can easily use 450 MB per hour. With six people in my household & each person watching IPTV about 15 or 20 hours a month.. that's 45 GB per month for just one legitimate application.
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| reply to ErikRP Your very confused, with digital media today its easy, I just downloaded 1 TV Show on Itunes in HD, it downloaded 2 GB of data for one show which included 1 SD and 1 HD version of the show. Oh in case anyone gets on me for buying shows off Itunes, I refuse to pay over $50 for a season, but the season I just bought was $20 for a 13 episode season pass for HD version, the SD pass was $14.99. So yes considering the average person spends $500+ on cable TV full of garbage stuff, I choose no cable and spend that on Itunes TV shows.... |
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 | reply to nitrogif It depends, really.
If you went over because you downloaded a lot (e.g., watched lots of streaming video, downloaded lots of movies from iTunes, etc), Shaw really doesn't care.
If however, you do a lot of torrents and your uploads are a good chunk, Shaw cares. Uploads strain the network (and a few people on extreme using full upload speeds will slow down a node)
E.g., on high-speed, you get 60GB. Shaw will probably not really care should you download 120GB. However, if you do torrents, and download say, 40GB and upload 20GB, you'll probably get a call.
So those of you watching streaming video and downloading stuff need not worry. Those of you uploading a lot, either by torrents, VPN or other thing, might want to consider upgrading. |
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