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C0deZer0
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[ps3] yLoD prevention, I hope

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That's a humongous fan!
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Augh, what is this cheap shit? is this why so many are YLOD'ing now?
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Even more of the gunk on here
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Finally clean, with hopefully enough AS5
So anyway, here's my report on what I did, after reading this thread on gamespot. Following the disassembly tutorial on here, I noticed a couple of differences for the 60gig model I have vs. the 20gig they used for the tutorial. First off was the additional removal of the card reader drives, and secondly was the wireless antenna at the back that is connected to the front piece of PCB with a wire.

Other than that, the dis-assembly went through easily enough. For the 'warranty' sticker i used Elmer's Sticky out to soften it up enough to cleanly come off. And before you say "well, ya ruined it now", keep in mind this is an original 60gig model that I received from Sony after the last one had a GPU failure. This thing was already past any possible warranty I might have had from Sony, and it was either do this or spend another $150 and run the risk of getting a neutered unit back, already updated with the Linux-removed firmware.

So, got that done, put it together... the top cover(s) were easily the hardest part. Still ended up with a spare screw that didn't have a spot to go in, even after accounting for every possible screw hole in the system.

Put it together finally, switched it on... so far so good. Started up Twisted Metal 2, as that was one of the games I'd noticed that it would spin up the fan rather loudly, rather quickly. According to the other thread, AS5 would need up to two full weeks to properly cure and give the ideal performance for these chips. Even so, I noticed some improvement already. The fan spun up much later, and spun down rather quckly after exiting the game, which already suggests the AS5 is doing its job. 'Cooking' it now by running the F@H client, and even then it's running quieter on that too.

Have to say, I'm rather impressed with the initial results.
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bones200
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I have read a lot of post,media,forums,ETC... Since I have finally bought a PS3. I have a 80GB BC fat.
I am throwing this out there. Have you ever just put your hand around the system? It is rather WARM!
When I got mine, I played it for 2 hours straight. I could hardly touch the bottom! Then I found a NYKO fan to put on back. I think I could heat up a small room with it. The fan HELPED a lot!
Now back to this post!!! I may tear mine down this weekend and REPLACE the thermal paste in mine. The stuff you have in pic looks a little weak or THIN?
I think the KEY to RLOD or YLOD is HEAT!



C0deZer0
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I put about the size of a pea's worth on each there. with the way the heatsink presses on each chip, that should help spread it out enough to give enough for the whole chip to do its job.
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cbrigante2
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I usually use the edge of a credit card or something similar to spread the paste over the whole chip...very thin. The paste is not as effective if you have too much in there.



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said by cbrigante2:

I usually use the edge of a credit card or something similar to spread the paste over the whole chip...very thin. The paste is not as effective if you have too much in there.
That's what the heat-spreaders are for (on top of the GPU/CPU)
It's also recommended by arctic silver to do the pea method.


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said by bones200:

I have read a lot of post,media,forums,ETC... Since I have finally bought a PS3. I have a 80GB BC fat.
I am throwing this out there. Have you ever just put your hand around the system? It is rather WARM!
When I got mine, I played it for 2 hours straight. I could hardly touch the bottom! Then I found a NYKO fan to put on back. I think I could heat up a small room with it. The fan HELPED a lot!
Now back to this post!!! I may tear mine down this weekend and REPLACE the thermal paste in mine. The stuff you have in pic looks a little weak or THIN?
I think the KEY to RLOD or YLOD is HEAT!


it's the COLD/HOT cycles that damage the soldering on the CPU/GPU

overtime it becomes lose and you get YLOD
if it's overheating you will get the RLOD or flashing RLOD


C0deZer0
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Almost a week since i'd done it now. Even put in arkham asylum and have noticed the fan not needing to spin up as much or as loudly since the "operation."
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cbrigante2
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said by C0deZer0:

Almost a week since i'd done it now. Even put in arkham asylum and have noticed the fan not needing to spin up as much or as loudly since the "operation."
Nice job with the fix.


C0deZer0
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Yea, Batman AA was just one of those games that before was notorious for getting the ps3 to spin up its fan to quite uncomfortable levels. no doubt due to all that glop that sony put on there from the factory.

Twisted Metal 2 (installed on hard drive) will still get it to spin up to that level, but it now takes a fair bit more playing. And even after exiting, it will quiet down faster.

Haven't gone through all of my games yet, but most of them seem to stay in that mid-range level for the fan, where the most i hear is the sound of the air moving through it, and more of the games are now in the "can't hear the console" level anymore. I'm looking forward to seeing how it goes after this week.
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Khaos
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reply to C0deZer0
I'm glad I followed your advise and cracked mine open too. I was shocked to find my heatsink screws to be very loose. I used Artic Silver and my fan also does not seem to run as hard. It now runs at a lower rpm while playing BF:BC 2.



C0deZer0
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said by Khaos:

I'm glad I followed your advise and cracked mine open too. I was shocked to find my heatsink screws to be very loose. I used Artic Silver and my fan also does not seem to run as hard. It now runs at a lower rpm while playing BF:BC 2.
Really? Weird. Mine were fairly secure. I'm just still trying to figure out how the hell I missed a screw-hole in the disassembly.

Did a marathon run of Dante's Inferno on the ps3, and save for a few stints here and there, it too remained quiet during this time. I guess there's some parts of the game where it's loading a lot of data or something where it seems to just work more then, and thus require it to spin up more. I still can't get over the size and heavy-duty-ness of the fan inside. Though it seriously makes me wish there was a compact enough water system I could put in its place.
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C0deZer0
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reply to C0deZer0
Posting on the Playstation forums thankfully led to a thread that provided some good info on not only helping to maintain a ps3, but also help it run greener.

Looks like next on the shopping list is a newer power supply. And maybe a new system fan.
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Khaos
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reply to C0deZer0
I wonder if your spare screw is from the power supply. Mine had 2 screws right next to each other about 1/4"-1/2" apart. How about the top black cover/lid. There are arrows around it to identify screw holes. Any of those arrows missing a screw? Also there are arrows around the metal frame that holds the motherboard.

I have the 40GB model and my HS did not come off like yours and the other site's pictures. It was permanently attached to the entire metal plate which was one big ass piece.


KoRnGtL15
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Grants Pass, OR

reply to C0deZer0
Excellent job on the clean up. Man. I think Sony done a great job building that thing. Only if they added quality paste. The 360 is built like crap.



ztmike
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said by cbrigante2:

I usually use the edge of a credit card or something similar to spread the paste over the whole chip...very thin. The paste is not as effective if you have too much in there.
I don't recommend this.

Its basically the same thing on PC's, what you do is just squirt about a grain of rice on the middle of the cpu/gpu and then just put the heatsink back down, when you do this it will spread the thermal paste itself.

If you spread the paste yourself it will cause air bubbles and it will run hot.


ztmike
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reply to C0deZer0

said by C0deZer0:

So anyway, here's my report on what I did, after reading this thread on gamespot. Following the disassembly tutorial on here, I noticed a couple of differences for the 60gig model I have vs. the 20gig they used for the tutorial. First off was the additional removal of the card reader drives, and secondly was the wireless antenna at the back that is connected to the front piece of PCB with a wire.

Other than that, the dis-assembly went through easily enough. For the 'warranty' sticker i used Elmer's Sticky out to soften it up enough to cleanly come off. And before you say "well, ya ruined it now", keep in mind this is an original 60gig model that I received from Sony after the last one had a GPU failure. This thing was already past any possible warranty I might have had from Sony, and it was either do this or spend another $150 and run the risk of getting a neutered unit back, already updated with the Linux-removed firmware.

So, got that done, put it together... the top cover(s) were easily the hardest part. Still ended up with a spare screw that didn't have a spot to go in, even after accounting for every possible screw hole in the system.

Put it together finally, switched it on... so far so good. Started up Twisted Metal 2, as that was one of the games I'd noticed that it would spin up the fan rather loudly, rather quickly. According to the other thread, AS5 would need up to two full weeks to properly cure and give the ideal performance for these chips. Even so, I noticed some improvement already. The fan spun up much later, and spun down rather quckly after exiting the game, which already suggests the AS5 is doing its job. 'Cooking' it now by running the F@H client, and even then it's running quieter on that too.

Have to say, I'm rather impressed with the initial results.
That's actually to much paste you used on your bottom picture. You want about a grain of rice that's uncooked. You don't need much at all.

But if its working for you..I'd leave it alone.


C0deZer0
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Davenport, FL

reply to ztmike
not to mention that Arctic Silver themselves also recommend the "pea" method as well for a job like this. They have a "line" method for the Core 2 processors and stuff, but that's so it most immediately spreads over the "hottest" part of the chip. As these are basically single-core chips, the pea method starts from the hottest part and spreads across the surface.

And it's more of a 'liquid silver' rather than a paste, which is what $ony used here.
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cbrigante2
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North Aurora, IL

Yeah I guess I learned something from this thread. I was going a CPU install a few years back and was following a step by step online..and they did the spread method on the AS5. I like the method you guys describe in here much better. Easier to do actually.



Flummoxed
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Saint Peters, MO

reply to C0deZer0
I just did this with my launch 60gig model. Cleaned all the dust and cat hair out, then applied the AS5. The paste my ps3 had was caked on with alot extra that looked to be squeezed out around the edges of the chips. Used a tooth pick to dig out big clumps of that crap. Going to run folding@home for a day as a burn in.



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system is still toast once the solder breaks down


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