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1 edit | does IP4 support 1700mhz The real question to whether this rumor has any legs is to find out if the IP4 has 1700Mhz support (Tmobile uses this). The specs released to the public dont list this band BUT the FCC filing/certification for the IP4 should have that information.
This should be public record - right??
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| said by dellsweig:The real question to whether this rumor has any legs is to find out if the IP4 has 1700Mhz support (Tmobile uses this). The specs released to the public dont list this band BUT the FCC filing/certification for the IP4 should have that information. IF Apple has a Tmobile iPhone, it will probably be a different model and not the same one AT&T has.
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| said by fAcEtIOUs:said by dellsweig:The real question to whether this rumor has any legs is to find out if the IP4 has 1700Mhz support (Tmobile uses this). The specs released to the public dont list this band BUT the FCC filing/certification for the IP4 should have that information. IF Apple has a Tmobile iPhone, it will probably be a different model and not the same one AT&T has. Thats not Apples style - my bet is you will only see multiple carriers if/when they support the same hardware. If its not now - then when the LTE version comes out next year....
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said by dellsweig:The real question to whether this rumor has any legs is to find out if the IP4 has 1700Mhz support (Tmobile uses this). The specs released to the public dont list this band BUT the FCC filing/certification for the IP4 should have that information. This should be public record - right?? If it doesn't , it will. And what's to keep apple from releasing the tPhone or the iSlide. I bet it wouldn't violate any exclusivity agreements.
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said by dellsweig:The real question to whether this rumor has any legs is to find out if the IP4 has 1700Mhz support (Tmobile uses this). The specs released to the public dont list this band BUT the FCC filing/certification for the IP4 should have that information. This should be public record - right?? It could have the radio to support 1700MHz, but was never tested for it (by the FCC), and therefore will have to go through the review process for that frequency.
Just because the website doesn't list it doesn't mean the phone doesn't support it (ala the source, Cult of Mac).
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The iphone 4 radio doesn't support the aws band. |
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said by dellsweig:This should be public record - right?? maybe...maybe not
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said by AVD:If it doesn't , it will. And what's to keep apple from releasing the tPhone or the iSlide. I bet it wouldn't violate any exclusivity agreements. I'm guessing Apple's exclusivity agreement with AT&T covers any phones that Apple makes, not just the iPhone brand (or they would have released phones for all carriers already). |
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Like was said above, chances are it would be a different model with a different radio. |
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Remember The iPhone like all other Smart phones has a software defined radio. I would think it would work on 1.7gHz with updated firmware. This is one area where Apple would have no need for a custom IC. Has anyone here had a chance to take apart an recent iPhone model, or have a clear picture of it's RF section. If we can get the numbers off of the transceiver chip we might be able to refer to a tech sheet to see what it will do.
I looked into the background of this story and this one makes since. The iPhone does not have be re-engineered to work with T-Mobil, and there is the German connection.
I tried to find the type acceptance certificate for the iPhone at the FCC and I failed. It may not even be available for public viewing. The FCC site has long been one of the worst Government sites on the web. The way their search engine works you practically have to know everything about what ever it is you are looking for already to find it.
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| said by Transmaster:Remember The iPhone like all other Smart phones has a software defined radio. Really? Everything I've ever heard on this subject is the opposite; that the frequencies the radios support are are baked into the hardware.
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said by Transmaster:Remember The iPhone like all other Smart phones has a software defined radio. I would think it would work on 1.7gHz with updated firmware. This is one area where Apple would have no need for a custom IC. Has anyone here had a chance to take apart an recent iPhone model, or have a clear picture of it's RF section. If we can get the numbers off of the transceiver chip we might be able to refer to a tech sheet to see what it will do. It's not possible for a third party to modify the radio chipset. Moreover, for Apple to enable UMTS Band IV (assuming the radio even supports that band) in the United States, it would need to be re-submitted to the FCC for interference testing. And when that happens, everyone in the world will know.
I looked into the background of this story and this one makes since. The iPhone does not have be re-engineered to work with T-Mobil, and there is the German connection. It doesn't need to be re-engineered. It just needs a new radio. That's correct. As for the German connection, that's been there for 3 years and has had 0 correlation to a TMO USA release in the past.
I tried to find the type acceptance certificate for the iPhone at the FCC and I failed. It may not even be available for public viewing. The FCC site has long been one of the worst Government sites on the web. The way their search engine works you practically have to know everything about what ever it is you are looking for already to find it. Search engadget. There's a public FCC listing for every device - including the iphone. The FCC never tested UMTS Band IV on the iPhone4. If the iPhone4 supports AWS, it would have to be tested by the FCC.
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| said by tiger72:said by Transmaster:Remember The iPhone like all other Smart phones has a software defined radio. I would think it would work on 1.7gHz with updated firmware. This is one area where Apple would have no need for a custom IC. Has anyone here had a chance to take apart an recent iPhone model, or have a clear picture of it's RF section. If we can get the numbers off of the transceiver chip we might be able to refer to a tech sheet to see what it will do. It's not possible for a third party to modify the radio chipset. Moreover, for Apple to enable UMTS Band IV (assuming the radio even supports that band) in the United States, it would need to be re-submitted to the FCC for interference testing. And when that happens, everyone in the world will know. I looked into the background of this story and this one makes since. The iPhone does not have be re-engineered to work with T-Mobil, and there is the German connection. It doesn't need to be re-engineered. It just needs a new radio. That's correct. As for the German connection, that's been there for 3 years and has had 0 correlation to a TMO USA release in the past. I tried to find the type acceptance certificate for the iPhone at the FCC and I failed. It may not even be available for public viewing. The FCC site has long been one of the worst Government sites on the web. The way their search engine works you practically have to know everything about what ever it is you are looking for already to find it. Search engadget. There's a public FCC listing for every device - including the iphone. The FCC never tested UMTS Band IV on the iPhone4. If the iPhone4 supports AWS, it would have to be tested by the FCC. It was tested, but it's currently being held under lock & key for 45 days.
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said by tiger72:It doesn't need to be re-engineered. It just needs a new radio. That's correct. As for the German connection, that's been there for 3 years and has had 0 correlation to a TMO USA release in the past. I tried to find the type acceptance certificate for the iPhone at the FCC and I failed. It may not even be available for public viewing. The FCC site has long been one of the worst Government sites on the web. The way their search engine works you practically have to know everything about what ever it is you are looking for already to find it. Search engadget. There's a public FCC listing for every device - including the iphone. The FCC never tested UMTS Band IV on the iPhone4. If the iPhone4 supports AWS, it would have to be tested by the FCC. only if/when they decide to import it into the United States.
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