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iansltx

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Up and coming prepaid operators

Prepaid operators don't use their own network. So they'd have to use either AT&T or T-Mobile outside of the FemtoJack's range. Which means this one's gonna be T-Mobile.


Karl Bode
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good call.



DaveDude
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i think its tmobile to, with ATT pushing there own femtocells, i think its going to tmobile.



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said by iansltx:

Prepaid operators don't use their own network. So they'd have to use either AT&T or T-Mobile outside of the FemtoJack's range. Which means this one's gonna be T-Mobile.
Not necessarily. There's a 3rd US GSM owner/operator: Cincinnati Bell Wireless.

With CBW securely behind them, MajicJack could deploy solidly all across...well...Cincinnati;
Maybe parts of Indiana and Kentucky too!.

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iansltx

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MJ isn't going to partner with a regional operator on this one. That would lead to more confusion than it's worth. T-Mobile seems a sure bet to me.

FWIW I know there are other GSM carriers than AT&T and T-Mobile.Example: »www.westcentral.com.



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said by iansltx:

MJ isn't going to partner with a regional operator on this one. That would lead to more confusion than it's worth. T-Mobile seems a sure bet to me.
My post was a light attempt at humor. I was assuming that everyone would assume the obvious. Obviously, I shouldn't assume.

said by iansltx:

FWIW I know there are other GSM carriers than AT&T and T-Mobile.Example: »www.westcentral.com.
I was going along with the crowd in believing that none of the minor GSM operators owned their own towers. This List kind of confirmed that and revealed CinBellWireless to be the exception. After reading your post, I'm not so sure, anymore.

This Other List shows a number of GSM carriers, but it doesn't indicate who owns what. This Even More Comprehensive List, is even less help.

Looks like WCW came online in 2004. Do you know if they put up their own towers, bought someone else's or are renting the transmitter?

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Sorry, I don't get subtle humor this early in the morning

There are plenty of GSM operators who own their own networks in the US...their own towers, transmitters, all that. Heck, Sprint doesn't own any of their towers anymore, but companies like CinBell do.

CinBell does indeed run their own network, hence the regional reach. They roam on T-Mobile outside of their home coverage area if I remember correctly.

WCW also runs their own network. They own some of their own towers, rent space off of others, and use a lot of microwave backhauls to get (a small amount of) bandwidth to more remote towers. They use Nortel equipment for most of their network, and are GSM/EDGE only at this point.

I'm pretty sure WCW has been around since before 2004, though at that point their network was TDMA or analog rather than GSM. I know the component that's where I live (former Five Star Wireless) has been around for 15+ years; the company moved from analog to TDMA, then to CDMA, then to GSM as their primary technology, though they're keeping their CDMA towers online until roaming revenue runs low.

What's interesting is that WCW owns the 850MHz band in all the markets they serve (the B side license, to be exact). AT&T owns the A side, thanks to their purchase of CellularOne-Dobson, which had purchased CellularOne-Concho earlier. So in central TX there's no EvDO on 850MHz...Verizon is at 1900 just like Sprint.

WCW is actually owned by Central Texas Telephone Cooperative, and Five Star Wireless (which served fur counties until they were merged into WCW) was a cooperative effort between three or four telephone companies, a few of them cooperatives.



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said by Karl Bode:

good call.
there are plenty of past events that would question your knee jerk "good call." Remember that Dan Borislow's big time long distance reseller in the 1980s and early 1990s was an AT&T reseller. Also, when MJ first introduced international calling capability, he splashed the AT&T name all over his websites. Dan is a very proud guy, and having that link to AT&T would increase the credibility of his offer as well as make it available to more subscribers. It might ultimately be T-Mobile, but AFAIC it's not so obvious.

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