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AlfredNewman

join:2010-03-25
Columbus, OH

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reply to hehbo2k3

Did you forget something?

said by hehbo2k3:

These reports never seem to acknowledge the fact that the US has a much sparser population density than nearly any of the European countries we are "competing" against. Shouldn't this be a huge factor in all 5 of those categories mentioned?
Did you forget New York City, San Francisco, LA, Miami, etc... high density, sucky internet services. They are just not getting DOCSIS 3.0 and up to 50Mb services if you pay about $100+ when compared to places like Toyko that get 100MB up/down for a fraction of the price.

I'm sorry hehbo2k3 but you obviously didn't think or do your research before you posted.


Z80A
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join:2009-11-23
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Did you forget that the carriers in those areas aren't isolated to those areas. If VZ ONLY had to wire NYC, they could deploy any speed you wanted...but they have to be concerned with millions upon millions of other users and dedicate resources to serving them.
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digitalfreak
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join:2005-12-09
Blacklick, OH

So how does wiring NYC for speeds comparable to SK and other have anything to do with speeds in Podunk, Kansas? There's nothing that says they have to offer the same speeds in every location. Hell, they're doing that now.



Z80A
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join:2009-11-23

Because they deploy using nationwide plans. If they deployed gigabit service in NYC everyone here would immediately cry redlining.


NormanS
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reply to AlfredNewman

said by AlfredNewman:

hey are just not getting DOCSIS 3.0 and up to 50Mb services if you pay about $100+ when compared to places like Toyko that get 100MB up/down for a fraction of the price.
What is that "fraction"? 10%? 25%? I suspect it is around 50%.
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NuShrike

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reply to Z80A
How is that different from now where they deploy piecemeal per city anyways?

Do you see AT&T covering all of USA's square inch? Even Verizon? No, they cover only where people live and where the density justifies the coverage.

Stop being such an industry apologist.



Z80A
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join:2009-11-23

Big difference because they're still national plans.

Stop being a whiner.


Sammer

join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA

said by Z80A:

Big difference because they're still national plans.
Verizon FiOS is not a national or even Verizon wide plan. AT&T U-Verse is not a national or even an AT&T wide plan. Don't even think about cable companies having the same speeds and prices everywhere. Lack of effective competition is the reason why U. S. broadband isn't better.


Z80A
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join:2009-11-23

Of course it is. FiOS plans are nearly standard in every FiOS market and the same with U-Verse.


Ulmo

join:2005-09-22
San Jose, CA
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said by Z80A:

Of course it is. FiOS plans are nearly standard in every FiOS market and the same with U-Verse.
False on its face. FiOS plans follow a close pattern to competition. There's about two to three templates Verizon follows, but which template they choose from for each area has a lot to do with competition, and the templates are far different from each other.

Who cares what AT&T does with U-Verse -- that whole product line is a low class tier anyway. It doesn't really count. It's slower than anything else.


Z80A
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join:2009-11-23
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False on it's face. FiOS tiers are nearly universal across all FiOS markets. They are 15-25-35-50 just about everywhere if not everywhere FiOS is available.

And 18-24Mb U-Verse is slow compared to what exactly? They are also getting ready to deploy bonded service.


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