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Cheese
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AMD 6 Core

Anyone have this yet? Thoughts?


ztmike
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I have it..Took me a bit to understand how to overclock it to 4.0ghz but I got it.

That of course is NOT using the stock cooler, but a Coolermaster Hyper 212+ with these 2 fans as a push and pull setup
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···35705040

Really good CPU for the money, and runs the latest games fine.

If you are looking to buy, get the black edition..so easy to overclock and its faster.


Cheese
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said by ztmike:

I have it..Took me a bit to understand how to overclock it to 4.0ghz but I got it.

That of course is NOT using the stock cooler, but a Coolermaster Hyper 212+ with these 2 fans as a push and pull setup
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···35705040

Really good CPU for the money, and runs the latest games fine.

If you are looking to buy, get the black edition..so easy to overclock and its faster.
Don't really care for the OC and it's only 400mhz faster :P I am a gamer also.


Mchart
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Keep in mind that for gaming, even dual-cores still perform just as well in 99% of the games out there. So I wouldn't invest extra money in anything beyond quad-core right now.
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Octavean
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Here is a quote from a review I read when the Phenom II X6 line first came out.

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The Phenom II X6 1090T is actually quite competitive in terms of performance/dollar. The $285 price point is 71% lower than the i7-980X, so that gives it a huge advantage when looking at this particular metric. The chip certainly is not 71% slower than the 980X! The i5-530 and X4 955 rule the roost with their particular combination of cores and price. The i5 is very good at games, while the X4 provides a nice balance of cores and performance in multi-threaded applications.

The 1090T does fall down a bit when it comes to games, as it performs on par with the X4 955 which is $155. As such, its ratio is inferior to other, more budget oriented CPUs.
»www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=91···t&pid=12


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said by Mchart:

Keep in mind that for gaming, even dual-cores still perform just as well in 99% of the games out there. So I wouldn't invest extra money in anything beyond quad-core right now.
^ This is true, especially considering Octavean's quote.
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ztmike
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said by Mchart:

Keep in mind that for gaming, even dual-cores still perform just as well in 99% of the games out there. So I wouldn't invest extra money in anything beyond quad-core right now.
Guess you never played new games then, most new games are taking advantage of ALL cores.

Hell even TF2 had a update recently to take advantage of more than 4 cores.


Mchart
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said by ztmike:

said by Mchart:

Keep in mind that for gaming, even dual-cores still perform just as well in 99% of the games out there. So I wouldn't invest extra money in anything beyond quad-core right now.
Guess you never played new games then, most new games are taking advantage of ALL cores.

Hell even TF2 had a update recently to take advantage of more than 4 cores.
It's not about games -using- all cores.

It's about the fact that the benchmarks show that even last gen dual cores like the E8400 pretty much perform on par with current-gen quad cores. Games just haven't advanced enough in the CPU usage department where they are truly using them to their full potential.

Yes, I *guess* I have played newer games, such as Metro 2033 or any number of other titles. I've yet to have issues with my E8400 in any of the newer titles to come out. If I were to upgrade my CPU it would be because I was doing encoding/decoding/whatever type of tasks on my computer - Not for gaming reasons. It seems a bit silly to spend the extra cash on a 6-core CPU when the games will hardly see the benefit.
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ztmike
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said by Mchart:

said by ztmike:

said by Mchart:

Keep in mind that for gaming, even dual-cores still perform just as well in 99% of the games out there. So I wouldn't invest extra money in anything beyond quad-core right now.
Guess you never played new games then, most new games are taking advantage of ALL cores.

Hell even TF2 had a update recently to take advantage of more than 4 cores.
It's not about games -using- all cores.

It's about the fact that the benchmarks show that even last gen dual cores like the E8400 pretty much perform on par with current-gen quad cores. Games just haven't advanced enough in the CPU usage department where they are truly using them to their full potential.

Yes, I *guess* I have played newer games, such as Metro 2033 or any number of other titles. I've yet to have issues with my E8400 in any of the newer titles to come out. If I were to upgrade my CPU it would be because I was doing encoding/decoding/whatever type of tasks on my computer - Not for gaming reasons. It seems a bit silly to spend the extra cash on a 6-core CPU when the games will hardly see the benefit.
I could understand this logic if the person already has their system built. But for those wanting to build a new rig, it wouldn't make any sense at all to still go with a dual core..dual cores are dead in the market IMO which is why they are so cheap.

If someone were want to build a new rig it would make sense (IMO) to just go ahead and get the 6 core like the one being talked about here.

This is exactly what I did..I wanted to build my first gaming rig and do so but went with AMD as it had 6 cores and is very budget friendly compared to Intel. And the fact that AMD doesn't change their socket type every cpu they come out with was even more of a reason for me.

Although I am no AMD fanboy, my last computer that I had was a Intel E5200 (2.5GHZ Dual Core) and I actually got lag in my games from that cpu.


Mchart
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Never said go with dual core.

I said I wouldn't spend the extra cash on a six-core.
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ztmike
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said by Mchart:

Never said go with dual core.

I said I wouldn't spend the extra cash on a six-core.
I still wouldn't go with a quad. You wouldn't even be saving that much.

O and Metro 2033 is a GPU intensive game. If you want to test your CPU play GTA 4;Liberty city.

And what you said about games not using more than 4 cores..is simply a lie.

If Valve is putting out support for more than 4cores you know damn well current games being made are also.


Mchart
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Have both games, and the E8400 has no issues with nearly maxed out settings.
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ztmike
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Whatever man, not going to argue with you over a stupid thing as games using more than 4cores.

To the OP: if you have the money go for it, you will be pleased that you did in the end.



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This is why I never upgrade my computer until everyone else buys things that are not needed and drive the price down for the rest of us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ps.

Hardware is 5+years ahead of software. Why spend the money on the latest and greatest only to never be able to use it??????????? 5yrs later, your computer is still fast, but now you have to upgrade your video card to play other games that were just released.

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PURENESS1987

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Only 20 apps uses quad core. so if your using any of these apps and want to browse internet, play games or do other things at the same time then 6 core will be worth.



Octavean
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There are a couple of different ways of looking at it. When the Phenom II X6 perform like a Phenom II X4 then perhaps 4 cores are being used in both cases. When the cores are not being taxed then Turbo Boost might push the few used cores harder yielding better performance. So all cores don’t necessarily have to be taxed to see a performance gain. Naturally if all 6 cores are being utilized then that should yield a performance boost as well but clearly this would be the minority of available games and probably wouldn’t yield significant gains over a quad,…..especially a quad with a higher instructions per cycle ratio. Most of the gaming benchmarks I have seen have the Phenom II X6 1090T performing at or near the level of a Phenom II X4 955. Different games and overclocking might change that though,…..

At any rate, buying for future performance that cannot be fully realized now isn’t necessarily a wise choice but if you have the money burning a hole in your pocket then why not go for the gold. I personally would rather have a Phenom II X6 then a Phenom II X4 and they are both reasonably priced (attainable) but I do more them gaming and currently have two Core i7 systems.

I will point out though that the Intel Core i7 950 will supposedly undergo a price drop to the entry level Core i7 price point at ~$300. While this in itself may not mean much it might prompt an impromptu price drop of the Phenom II X6 or a newer model might be pushed out the door sooner than expected to address this. So it might be a good idea to wait a little to see where things fall.



Krisnatharok
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said by ztmike:

Hell even TF2 had a update recently to take advantage of more than 4 cores.
How does TF2 even use 4 cores?


ztmike
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said by Krisnatharok:

said by ztmike:

Hell even TF2 had a update recently to take advantage of more than 4 cores.
How does TF2 even use 4 cores?
Couldn't answer that as I don't play TF2 that much, and haven't bothered to test it.

It seems to be an upgrade to their Source engine as it wasn't just for TF2.

Da Man

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I'd take the X6 over the X4 just for the new stepping (cooler, better OC in 64bit and turbo mode).
AMD said the new stepping won't be making its way into retail X4 chips.



Cheese
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Ok, well, I did it. Got X6 1055T along with an ASUS M488T-M with 2gb PNY DDR3 1333.

PNY Model number MD2048SD3-1333

I am having random lockups. It doesn't matter where it's at, or if I am doing anything at all, for example, the Win 7 splash screen will not load past if I reboot, I have to restart it to come up properly.

I am running a Kingston 64gb as the boot drive, 2 x 74gb Raptors in a RAID 0 on the main-board itself. I run 2 x 500 in a 4 port SATA RAID card in RAID 1. 1 SATA ODD. X-FI Titanium Pro Fatality. PC POWER and Cooling 750 PSU.

Everything ran like butter until I replaced the main-board, cpu and memory.

Anyone have any ideas what could be the potential issue? I am going to run Memtest86 tonight, I have flashed the BIOS to the most current version but same issue. I figure it's the board or memory. We also set the timings in the BIOS directly but still did nothing.

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