 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Mount Airy, MD | Protection Money If you want to complain about lobbying, blame Congress. If it was not selling access, no one would be buying it.
Paying off Congress is no different than paying the mafia protection money. The result of skipping that is the same in both cases.
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Re: Protection Money Why cant we blame both like we always have? Frankly I couldnt give a rats ass which one is to blame it needs to stop. Bottom line the consumer needs to organize before this get out of control. |
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Sadly you have nailed it. Honestly, people could (rightly) criticize companies and special interest groups for buying influence all day, but it takes two to buy and sell. If no one is selling, no one is buying.
Unfortunately, you have a better chance of not seeing a drunk on Bourbon Street at Mardi Gras than having Congress enact strong ethics rules to prohibit taking money from special interests. And recent court rulings seem to make the issue murkier with campaign contributions and lobbying being likened to speech.
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zed260Premium
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Cleveland, TN
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| only way to stop it is to vote out of office those you know who take money from at&t and other isps thats all can do
that and send them email telling them why you voted agesnt them (doesnt relly help here since republicans are domanent in tn but every vote helps) |
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Mount Airy, MD | said by zed260:that and send them email telling them why you voted agesnt them (doesnt relly help here since republicans are domanent in tn but every vote helps) You do know that the Democrats are the majority in the Senate with 59 votes, compared to 41 for the GOP.
In the House, there are 253 Democrats and 178 GOP.
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join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA | reply to zed260
Actually, the *only* way to stop it is to redefine corporations to remove their "personhood". Currently, they are the equivalent of billionare sociopathic diplomats out to get what they want with no laws to punish them if they get caught. |
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zed260Premium
join:2007-09-30
Cleveland, TN
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well yeah i know that but demcrats are a little less cozy then republicans to at&t
relly there all to cozy tbh |
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I believe he was referring to TN, not the entire US. |
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said by zed260:only way to stop it is to vote out of office those you know who take money from at&t and other isps thats all can do that and send them email telling them why you voted agesnt them (doesnt relly help here since republicans are domanent in tn but every vote helps) The problem is you can't get rid of them. The ones you vote out will be replaced with others just like them. The law needs to be changed to not allow any type of lobbying, but guess who creates the laws... |
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Not really. It's takes a supermajority to pass anything and with many of them being "Republican-lite", Democrats might as well be a minority. |
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | You forgot your sarcasm tag, but I got your joke and it made me laugh. |
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Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA | reply to SLD
said by SLD:Actually, the *only* way to stop it is to redefine corporations to remove their "personhood". Currently, they are the equivalent of billionare sociopathic diplomats out to get what they want with no laws to punish them if they get caught. Calling a corporation a person is an injustice to every human being. The Declaration of Independence clearly stated that rights are endowed by the creator. A corporation is a legal fiction that has no mortal soul so how can it be endowed with any rights. As another poster already pointed out, a corporation can't be incarcerated when it breaks the law. Our government has become of, by, and for the corporations and other huge interest groups such as government employee unions. One has to wonder when the people will tire of not being represented and they apply the Declaration of Independence against the federal government in D. C. |
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Canyon Country, CA
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| The Declaration of Independence was a rabble-rousing pamphlet to motivate the farmers; as inspiring as it is, it carries no force of law.
The issues are the same now. Government bends over backwards to help the fat cats, regardless of whether We get hurt or not. The meek shall inherit nothing. |
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DavePR
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Canyon Country, CA | reply to zed260
The Phone Company owns both parties. |
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i think you think again to say this
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said by DavePR:The Declaration of Independence was a rabble-rousing pamphlet to motivate the farmers; as inspiring as it is, it carries no force of law. The issues are the same now. Government bends over backwards to help the fat cats, regardless of whether We get hurt or not. The meek shall inherit nothing. The Constitution is overall a document protecting us from Government, not business.
"Special interest" money is only frowned upon when you disagree with the money's goal...every major bill has "corporate" money influence but we only hear this special interest BS when it's something particularly nasty.
If a law will affect a business, doesn't the business deserve the ability to influence it's content or passage? Businesses can't vote like an individual, it should at least be able to spend money and lobby for its desired effect.
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Canyon Country, CA | The entire system is corrupt and bankrupt. Nothing good will come of this but more fascism. |
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