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C0deZer0
Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
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join:2001-10-03
Davenport, FL

reply to Oleg

Re: HD manufacturers you trust

For several reasons, I avoid Western Digital like the plague.

  • I had about eight failures in my very first desktop (a getaway) - all from WD. The only drive that worked right in that damn computer was of all things a Fujitsu after I finally threatened the guy at the other end of the counter that I'd have him arrested if he put in another goddamn WD in the machine

  • When I finally started to build my own desktops, I was needing a hard drive in a pinch, and Circuit City at the time had some for sale... with my luck, it was the infamous 60GB models that had damn near 100% fail rate. Ironically, I received my mail-in rebate for the drive after I'd already returned it.

  • That god-awful WD 80GB "JB SE" drive that Tom's Hardware raved about how it "beat SCSI" then. No amount of defrag, tweaking or anything could get that thing to go beyond 19MB/sec sustained transfer speed, and it got horribly slow the closer to full it was.

  • It doesn't help that they seem to be the only makers of PATA drives anymore, because they deliberately make their PATA drives incompatible with the spacing inside a PlayStation2 network adapter, and also because I couldn't find one small enough anymore that would work in the Dell Laptop I used to have.

  • The ONLY legitimate RRoD I had with my Xbox 360 was - you guessed it - hard drive failure. And as anyone who does their homework knows, Microsoft uses WD drives exclusively for their Xbox 360 hard drives.


Maxtor had really nice performance, but was too a little spotty. a few failures there.

First foray into RAID was with two Samsung 120GB's in RAID 0. Not only did it rape the *expletive* out of that JB SE in sustained throughput (even on a famously poorly implemented onboard sata controller), but the two working together had lasted a very, very long time. It was only about six years later after necessity required me to split them up, that one of the drives failed. The other is happily resting inside an enclosure at the moment.

Currently using a pair of Seagate 1tb drives in RAID 0 on my main box.

Would I do SSD? Sure, why not. However, what I'd been reading/hearing about the problems of running SSD's in RAID (and the lack of this TRIM feature that reviewers seem to go ga-ga over) leads me to believe that I'll need to wait until that's ironed out.
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Cheese
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
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Most SSD are now coming with TRIM support.



C0deZer0
Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
Premium
join:2001-10-03
Davenport, FL

said by Cheese:

Most SSD are now coming with TRIM support.
Except that as I understand it, they disable TRIM if you're running RAID with them.
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Cheese
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Naples, FL
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said by C0deZer0:

said by Cheese:

Most SSD are now coming with TRIM support.
Except that as I understand it, they disable TRIM if you're running RAID with them.
»www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2···r-raid/1

Seems that is being corrected now


C0deZer0
Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
Premium
join:2001-10-03
Davenport, FL

All I can say there is a couple things... but first and foremost would be "about f*cking time!"



Cheese
Premium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1

said by C0deZer0:

All I can say there is a couple things... but first and foremost would be "about f*cking time!"


ejg1

join:2004-12-01
Pacifica, CA

Yes ... Raid will work... but

Only with the right Intel Motherboards
Your OS should support TRIM (Win7)
You cant be running Raid 5
Some older model SSDs dont support TRIM



C0deZer0
Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
Premium
join:2001-10-03
Davenport, FL

If that includes boards that support SLi proper, then that's not so bad for me. And if anything, any other chipset provider wanting to be competitive will obviously want to implement this in their drivers too.
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Konceptz
Intel

join:2001-12-22
Chesterfield, VA

reply to Oleg
Western Digital..never had one fail...ever....



Kilroy
Premium,MVM
join:2002-11-21
Ann Arbor, MI

reply to Oleg
Seagate, and mostly because of their warranty. I normally replace my drives before they fail, but I've replaced them from every manufacturer. I used to be Western Digital until they dropped down to a one year warranty.
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When will the people realize that with DRM they aren't purchasing anything?



craig70130
Premium
join:2004-04-27
New Orleans, LA

said by Kilroy:

Seagate, and mostly because of their warranty. I normally replace my drives before they fail, but I've replaced them from every manufacturer. I used to be Western Digital until they dropped down to a one year warranty.
Seagate dropped down to a one year warranty around the same time except on their Raid Edition and SCSI drives. Both upped their warranty about a year later.


ejg1

join:2004-12-01
Pacifica, CA

reply to Kilroy

said by Kilroy:

I normally replace my drives before they fail...
How long do you wait before you pull the plug on a drive?


Kilroy
Premium,MVM
join:2002-11-21
Ann Arbor, MI

said by ejg1:

said by Kilroy:

I normally replace my drives before they fail...
How long do you wait before you pull the plug on a drive?
Normally two or three years. I normally buy a new drive when the new Windows OS comes out then shift all the drives down and move the smallest one out. Most of my drives are just storage. My OS drive is now an SSD, so I'll probably image it when the next Windows OS comes out, unless SSD drives come down a lot in price. I do want to pick up an internal 3TB when they come out. They are holding on the internal 3TBs because BIOS machines can't boot from them, cuts down on the support head aches.
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When will the people realize that with DRM they aren't purchasing anything?

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