 Z80APremium
join:2009-11-23
 ·Cox HSI
| Just shows the tiers people are buying FiOS users for example have 50Mb service available to them, but most are plenty happy with the lower tiers.
So this is just reporting what people are buying and not what is available to them.
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 funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5 | said by Z80A:FiOS users for example have 50Mb service available to them, but most are plenty happy with the lower tiers. The questions people should be asking are
why?
when is it likely to change?
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Z80APremium
join:2009-11-23 Reviews:
·Cox HSI
1 edit | Because they can do with 15Mb what they could do with 50Mb. It certainly didn't a big deal over price as many of these tier bumps isn't a lot. For example VZ's 15/5 to 25/25 bump is $15. Same with my provider Cox, speed bump is about $15 for double the speed but most people don't bother. Most people don't give a crap so long as it is reliable.
It will change when there is a "killer app" that requires 15Mb+ speeds to work well.
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funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5 | Exactly right.
said by Z80A:It will change when there is a "killer app" that requires 15Mb+ speeds to work well. And that won't happen until enough of us have the faster speeds available to us at prices that make sense.
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 kpfx
join:2005-10-28
San Antonio, TX
·RoadRunner Cable
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Exactly.... just looking at the "average" connection speed doesn't mean squat. It just shows what people get that works for them or what they're willing to pay for.
This is the first report that I've personally seen that finally notes that and breaks out the average maximum connection speeds available.
I've pointed out in the past that even here in San Antonio, almost everybody within the city has access to the top tiers from Time Warner (15-22ish Mbps) and AT&T (18-22ish Mbps). All the CLECs and over-builders also offer similar services. That's pretty close to what Akamai disclosed and is a much more respectable number. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
 ·Verizon Online DSL
·Comcast
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What's the financial incentive for companies to lower prices on their higher speed tiers? If you like Net Neutrality thenthere is no incentive. If you're ani-Net-Neutrality then you can have content providers subsidizing a faster connection so all sorts of new applications are available.
I like Net Neutrality myself, but realistically a great unwashed masses could do everything they want right now on a 1.5/512 connection. |
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Z80APremium
join:2009-11-23 | reply to funchords
It won't happen until people demand it. People aren't going to demand it unless they have something they want to do with it. |
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said by iansltx:What's the financial incentive for companies to lower prices on their higher speed tiers? If you like Net Neutrality thenthere is no incentive. If you're ani-Net-Neutrality then you can have content providers subsidizing a faster connection so all sorts of new applications are available. I like Net Neutrality myself, but realistically a great unwashed masses could do everything they want right now on a 1.5/512 connection. Financial incentive? You're right, there is no real competition. Why would they lower prices when they know no one can beat them?
Are you trying to argue opex? That is laughably small for cable companies, who manage insanely high 80% margins on their internet services. |
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said by kpfx:Exactly.... just looking at the "average" connection speed doesn't mean squat. It just shows what people get that works for them or what they're willing to pay for. This is the first report that I've personally seen that finally notes that and breaks out the average maximum connection speeds available. I've pointed out in the past that even here in San Antonio, almost everybody within the city has access to the top tiers from Time Warner (15-22ish Mbps) and AT&T (18-22ish Mbps). All the CLECs and over-builders also offer similar services. That's pretty close to what Akamai disclosed and is a much more respectable number. Right, and when everyone has access to all the cable companies' $100+/month DOCSIS 3 tiers I'm sure you'll be crowing about how advanced the US is? |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | reply to sonicmerlin
I'm not talking about opex. I'm asking why a provider would lower the pricing on their premium tiers if their net cash flow due to doing so would be negative anyway. |
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Gami00
join:2010-03-11
Mississauga, ON | reply to kpfx
said by kpfx:Exactly.... just looking at the "average" connection speed doesn't mean squat. It just shows what people get that works for them or what they're willing to pay for. this argument seems kinda worthless. all it means is in South Korea/Japan, they're paying the equivalent that we're paying here but are geting 30 to 40 Mbps as their average payed for spd. it probably means they have access to the 100/100 Mbps speed, but don't need it.. |
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