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Dave Lewis

join:2004-04-21
Nepean, ON

WIC-1ADSL Firmware

Hello all,

I have a couple of WIC-1ADSL's in my 2811's that I'm trying to find firmware for. They are currently running

Init FW: ASW_init_3_8_131.bin
Operation FW: ASW_R3_8_131.bin
FW Source: embedded
FW Version: 3.8.131

and I know there are newer loads for them but I can't for the life of me find any anywhere.

Can anyone help ? Any newer version would be better than what I have.

Thanks,

Dave


OVERKILL

join:2010-04-05
Peterborough, ON

What IOS version do you have on the router? New IOS versions will have newer firmware.


Dave Lewis

join:2004-04-21
Nepean, ON

c2800nm-advsecurityk9-mz.124-24.T3.bin

at the moment.



OVERKILL

join:2010-04-05
Peterborough, ON

Care to try a 15-series release? It will likely have newer firmware for the WIC if there is any available.


Dave Lewis

join:2004-04-21
Nepean, ON

Cisco IOS Software, 2800 Software (C2800NM-ADVSECURITYK9-M), Version 15.0(1)M3, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2)

Init FW: ASW_init_3_8_131.bin
Operation FW: ASW_R3_8_131.bin
FW Source: embedded
FW Version: 3.8.131

no difference. The thing is reading online there are people who have shown examples of using external firmware in flash and using 3.9.220 and 3.9.221 for example, but nobody seems to have the actual firmware. Thus my problem.


cramer

join:2007-04-10
Raleigh, NC
kudos:5

reply to Dave Lewis
I have a copy of adsl_alc_20190.bin.4.0.15 from Sep/2008. It contains AMR-4.0.015.bin which I think is for the HWIC ADSL hardware (20190 vs. the WIC-1ADSL's 20150.)



OVERKILL

join:2010-04-05
Peterborough, ON
Reviews:
·Nexicom

said by cramer:

I have a copy of adsl_alc_20190.bin.4.0.15 from Sep/2008. It contains AMR-4.0.015.bin which I think is for the HWIC ADSL hardware (20190 vs. the WIC-1ADSL's 20150.)
Correct. That is the HWIC card firmware, and the same version I'm running on my 1841.

Many of the newer IOS versions (particularly the 15-series) seem to come with newer firmware in them for at least the HWIC cards. Which is why I've suggested it. As it may have a more recent firmware than what he's using.

Dave Lewis

join:2004-04-21
Nepean, ON

Ya I found the same firmware for the 20190. Ther are all sorts of those around the 20150 seems to be much harder to find.

Now unless I'm missing something here if it had the newer firmware it would just pick it up and use it right ? so I'm guessing because it's not an HWIC that they haven't included it into the latest firmware.


cramer

join:2007-04-10
Raleigh, NC
kudos:5

reply to Dave Lewis
Do you have any links to those discussions? 3.9.220 would be from a Cisco SOHO/800, as per the tables from Cisco.

I'm not sure new(er) firmware will make any difference. It's not going to magically become an ADSL2+ card. *grin*



OVERKILL

join:2010-04-05
Peterborough, ON

reply to Dave Lewis
You need to try a 15-series IOS, that's where I noticed the change. All of a sudden I was running 4-series firmware on my HWIC.


Dave Lewis

join:2004-04-21
Nepean, ON

But as I posted above... I tried your idea. I went to a 15 series and it made no difference. Look 6 posts up. 15.0.1M3 and it still reads 3.8.131 on the WIC FW.



OVERKILL

join:2010-04-05
Peterborough, ON
Reviews:
·Nexicom

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said by Dave Lewis:

But as I posted above... I tried your idea. I went to a 15 series and it made no difference. Look 6 posts up. 15.0.1M3 and it still reads 3.8.131 on the WIC FW.
Sorry, completely missed that post, though I would have gone with a T-Train release, not the M. You could try that....

I've found as new as 3.9.19 listed on Cisco's site.... so there ARE newer builds available.

Dave Lewis

join:2004-04-21
Nepean, ON

reply to cramer
Maybe I'm reading this wrong but in Table 7 here it says there is at least a 3.9.19

»www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collate···c4c.html

and this one talks about the 837, but the same firmware should work. it's the same chipset of DSL card ?

»compgroups.net/comp.dcom.sys.cis···firmware

and of course there was some non-english website which I can't find now that showed someone actually using the newer 3.9.xxx firmware.

Maybe I'm nuts and you just can't do it on anything but a SOHO router ? if anyone had the updated firmware for the 800 series I'd give it a shot..

I'm not looking for DSL2+ where my problem is that I just moved and with my WIC-1ADSL my line syncs at 5meg and 700K, where as if I put one of my ancient 2wire modems on it I get 12meg and 1.2meg up (max sync). SO obviously the WIC's aren't reading the attenuation or something right and are not allowing it to negotiate at at least full 800K. Nobody has been able to tell me what the max a WIC-1ADSL will sync at but it should at least get 800K when an old modem sees an excess of 1meg. I know WIC's are bad for syncing to anything non-Alcatel but I figure a new firmware might help... For troubleshooting etc, I really would rather use the internal WIC, but with that kind of a sync rate difference it's a tough call.


Dave Lewis

join:2004-04-21
Nepean, ON

reply to OVERKILL
For giggles I just tried 15.1(2)T, no difference..

So I'm not nuts.. you see it too awesome... the big question is where are they hiding them



OVERKILL

join:2010-04-05
Peterborough, ON

reply to Dave Lewis
I found a link for 3.9.221 but of course.... It was dead


bigsy

join:2001-07-18
UK
kudos:1

reply to Dave Lewis
ADSL firmware 4.10.9 is available for download by anonymous FTP from »ftp://ftp.cisco.com/pub/access/800. The accompanying document states it is for the Cisco 836. However I believe this has the same Alcatel 20150 chipset as the WIC-1ADSL so it might be worth seeing if it works for you.



OVERKILL

join:2010-04-05
Peterborough, ON

IIRC, it was the 837 that has the 20150.


bigsy

join:2001-07-18
UK
kudos:1

said by OVERKILL:

IIRC, it was the 837 that has the 20150.
»www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collate···e18.html

Cisco 836 Router ADSL Specifications
ST-Micro DynaMiTe (formerly Alcatel Micro Electronics) ADSL Chipset (20150)


OVERKILL

join:2010-04-05
Peterborough, ON
Reviews:
·Nexicom

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said by bigsy:

said by OVERKILL:

IIRC, it was the 837 that has the 20150.
»www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collate···e18.html

Cisco 836 Router ADSL Specifications
ST-Micro DynaMiTe (formerly Alcatel Micro Electronics) ADSL Chipset (20150)
Apparently, we are both right:

»www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collate···5c5.html

LOL! They both had it.

Cisco 837 Router ADSL Specifications
• ST-Micro DynaMiTe (formerly Alcatel Micro Electronics) ADSL Chipset (20150)
• T1.413 ANSI ADSL DMT issue 2
• G.992.1 ITU G.DMT support
• G.992.2 ITU G.Lite support
• G.992.3 ITU G.hs ADSL type negotiation
The chipset does not provide interoperability with carrierless amplitude modulation/phase modulation (CAP)-based ADSL lines.

cramer

join:2007-04-10
Raleigh, NC
kudos:5
Reviews:
·AT&T Southeast

reply to bigsy

said by bigsy:

ADSL firmware 4.10.9 is available...
That does appear to be 20150 FW, but one that only works on the 836. My 1721 will load it, but then cannot talk to the card:
%DMTDSL-3-DMTHWBAD: DMTDSL(0/0), Hardware failed self test

(note: it has to be named adsl_alc_20150.bin At least 12.4(23) looks for:
flash:adsl_alc_20150.bin
flash:1:adsl_alc_20150.bin
flash:adsl_alc_20160.bin
flash:1:adsl_alc_20160.bin
)

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